I see then you are an elite so aboy does not cheats, I remember I spectate him sometimes seems legit but I was still doubting because olga korean is super expert and accuse his friend of cheating he also was 3rd place on zone rm. Roman Jet also sometimes beats him, roman jet is a special player who does not likes to accuse that makes him a better player and plays all settings. Many people still accuse him and also fer sometimes thinks or suspects roman jet or ildivo because they found him really fast when rushing but he has played this game like 11 years and also with clan chingon.
bullwinkle accused roman jet for finding 3 pits rushing but he does not cheats he knows sometimes the map by memory and guesses where you might spawn, he is one of the best rushers and ildivo is the best rusher, voobly gps are crap against roman or ildivo sometimes and makri thought that ildivo was puma haha. They even dominate nomad no rev, these players I mention on my own knows how to explore efficiently something I learned a little from them but I am still inter in par with them. But they cannot beat an elite like you RFR or puma only chingon and robert_chingon could but they do not play anymore .

[This message has been edited by plismo (edited 08-02-2010 @ 01:29 PM).]

For every1's information and possible awareness here's a quick breakdown of cheats still active and where.

Aoe regular:
Any regular selfwritten or obtained macro (MacroExpress, AutoHotkey, AutoIt, Mouse buttons etc.): Voobly=yes GR=yes
Fastkey: Voobly=yes GR=yes
MiniMapHack: Voobly=no GR=yes
No Fog: Voobly=no GR=yes
Combo pack (any version) Voobly=no GR=yes

RoR:
Any regular selfwritten or obtained macro (MacroExpress, AutoHotkey, AutoIt, Mouse buttons etc.): Voobly=yes GR=yes
Fastkey: Obsolete in ror due to queue
MiniMapHack: Voobly=no GR=yes
No Fog: Voobly=no GR=yes
Combo pack (any version): Voobly=no Gr=yes

Available on the internet?
Fastkey: v4.0=yes 2002=no
MiniMapHack: no
No Fog: no
Combo Pack: some versions are still available, though they might not be complete/working (lets hope so)

Fastkey= makes building easier in aoe
MiniMapHack= reveals only the minimap
No Fog: reveals the entire map
Combo Pack: Mother of all cheats, resource hack, reveal map, sync games, resign players, instant build, basically most of the cheats that you WILL notice (except the reveal maybe)
Be aware that unlike in aok/aoc hacked resources will not show in achievements in aoe/ror.

Hope this clears things up a little.

More new players reported using bigdaddy or photonman.

Also some other false accusations reported:

Maymay and the other is jimmy_esp from the same clan from virrey, virrey is a gp compared to this 2 new old mates from his clan I don't really know who they are but they used the tag from esp once.

jimmy_esp and maymay thinking roman jet, also roman jet knows a trick in reveal where you can make a house and scan it on the berries if he can't make a house there it's because there are some berries another thing why reveal map sucks.

lol, I use the house trick all the time, it's really useful for blitz or late tool-rush

New cheaters reported on gr:

blah other nick nsync and spike

There are some kids saying that only plays tournament setts no walls no rush they make 20 villagers bronze 12:25 or 13 being able to make more villagers during tool and make bronze army at tool age. when the game is 14 minutes they for example they can make 40 villagers and make like 15 chariots archers, roman jet caught blah he went to his base he was making bronze army at tool age on tc.

Ways you can kill them, if you are far from their base they suck. If you are near him he might be able to kill you. If you wall your base they suck can't attack at all, they make this cheat so no one can notice and they don't want to be coop. There was other gr account saying he was elite puma expert was doing to same thing.

Or even better, block them and tell everybody else they use hacks

IIRC, most of those hacks were disabled with 1.0a patch.

Cheaters are really an annoyance. And what is worse, often they are proud of being hackers.

In reveal, the house or wall trick is easy for finding where enemies are.

I was playing a 3 not-so-noobs vs me (noob) and another guy, I was being bronze rushed and then my ally already had horse archers, I guess he could have done so as it was 20 mins, but then about 20 pows came to rescue me from the ele attack. I thought he had a massive army of horses when he said he will take them out, but they were those. And steroids came on as well.

Naturally everyone resigned once they saw what killed their expensive eles and Cats.

The house-trick is very important if you want to be a good DMer. I was "pro" DM once, maybe 2 years ago? Can't remember lol. Anyway, people will accuse you for cheating when you find their base and spam it with houses. They will lose time trying to kill them. Best is if you do this where they try to build military too (this is only good if you can find it quick enough!)

Not houses, walls, because they aren't attacked automatically and take longer to destroy since there are more ;-) Not so great against eles or scythes, +100 against siege.

Super great if you can block their buildings (not enough room to place unit) before they even build any military, because then they have to use their villagers to kill the walls.

Or else spread it among their approaching army...

I meant housing the opponents base. Stone is more valueful than wood in DM games

I understood housing opponents base, I use walls if there is enough stone sometimes for the reasons stated, i.e. killing a lot of 1-tile pegs that aren't automatically targeted is more annoying. I guess I should use my stone more wisely... ;-)

The action you describe is normally known as "Painting." It is generally considered bad sportmanship, and many people will assume painting is forbidden in any game.

I played a lot with Basse during that time, and at some points I was really impressed by his speed when it came to painting my base, I'm still not sure how he managed to find it so fast. I find it kind of strange that he describes himself as "pro", as we often played in the same league, and I never thought I was any higher than "Inter."

Also, I'm pretty sure valueful isn't a word.

Frukty, I played a lot without you too

Hmmm I remeber that stalemate game between me, Fruity and Rasteve...I thought they allied agaisnt me at some point. And I'm glad we decided to end it in stalemate...I was running out of wood for my chariots. Great for Rasteve who was Egyptian and always stayed offensive. I always underestimated them until that day. Next day I faced a crazy chinese guy who as pro with Egyptian and kicked my butt so hard back in 2008 that it still hurts :/. He spammed Elephant archers, Scythe Chariots, Priests and Ballista Towers, with that he was strangling me, reducing my territory and i was Hittite :/. That wasn't a stalemate like Qadesh...it was an undisputable Egyptian victory, lol.

Played a game on purpose with a guy since last time I played him someone d/c, and he said gb and my TC and house + villi died instantly.

This time I was about to build SP at trees and the foundation is destroyed. So I watched him next game and recorded it, and there are lots of occasions where the enemy's chariots just died randomly, also elephants at hunting killed right next to SP with 1 villi after only 4-5 hits. The way he played is also dodgy, building SP half way across the map, villagers standing idle for ages, still in tool at 21 mins because he so slow moving his villies to some non-advantageous spot on the map to build a SP!

Just before game ends, the other player (out of 3) red is fighting green at 30 mins, and 7 green chariots dead next to 3 red chariots all in a row, probably because of blue's medling, so to make out that it was red who was cheating. I'm assume 80 vills at 30 mins is acceptable when walled and only 3-4 chariots.

Ironically when I was recording I was also chatting and some chariots died as my chat box is open, and FRAPS only shows black in the chat box! I'll upload when I get to better internet...

I hope this kind of stories doesn't encourage cheating lol