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The Merciless Battle to the Death of the Banana Canyon of the Apes

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No. of Players: 4
Difficulty: Hard
Follow the Tragic story of a group of Monkeys who learned the joy of war... The setting is a tropical paradise, and the objective is to kill your opponents Monkey Cheiftain!

btw, Zappy came up with the name, which made me come up with a sick story! :P
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RCM7525 :D

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Man, you mods are all speeded-up now! *downloads*
Helelix lol...

Is it actually possible to win this on single player? I villager rushed orange and killed their Havoc but lost. And when I restarted I rushed Green (changed diplomacy) and nothing happened. I didn't loose or win. Is that whats meant to happen?
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Sorry, forgot to check allied victory for player 3, it (hopefully) works now. Thank you Helelix!

[Edited on 01/11/09 @ 07:32 AM]

MrCheeze You're not supposed to attack your own chief...

Anyway, in SP on hard orange moved and I couldn't find him, but he got killed by animals. I don't think that's supposed to happen...
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Do passive AIs react differently on hard difficulty? The AI is passive, Right?
TailSpray Do you actually play your creations all the way through to make sure they work before uploading?
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I should really make a final test for the stuff... The problem seems to have been that I in the late stages of the map converted it from an RoR map to an AoE map, which apparently made it save as the RoR map...
Map Design4.4
I downloaded this scenario feeling pretty exciting - before realising I couldn't do the multiplayer-designed aspects any justice. I do, however, have dozens of maps (ugly and pretty) under my own belt so I feel qualified - at least for now - to review the Mappy aspects of this game.

Playability & Balance: Not Rated
So I played for about 20 minutes on single player - unfortunately the scenario instructions didn't really tell me anything useful (see below!) so I spent some time simply exploring.
I was playing on hardest and the default AI didn't make a threatening move (except the yellows, before I saw they were my ally! - see below). The resources are nice-looking but perhaps the camps are a little claustriphobic for a 2-v-2 multiplayer game.

I'm not sure about the tactical possibilities- good players will ageup early and do Tool raids, slower players will simply wall up their team so the experiences have good variability potential I think. There aren't any traditional choke points but the joines between north and south have potential to be very defensible - use of cliff blocks make for small routes.

Overall I think the gameplay aspects of this scenario would be generally enjoyable, with potential for some exciting moments in combat but this doesn't grab me especially exciting/thrilling.

I cannot judge the experience holistically of course... no friends = no multiplayer :( ... but as I said this has potential but isn't going to be a wild ride. Definately 3.5-4.5 range, but I will give no final score.

Creativity: 4.5
Obviously, as one can judge from the title, the idea is unorthodox - pretty amusing little backstory in the SI texts.

In terms of realising the idea I think FF has done a good job - none of the design elements seem to be afterthoughts (as is sometimes the case) and ideas are either original or a new spin - eg defending Mor Havoc (an ally who won't really do ANYTHING) will make for a player to make choices - wall him in? Or guardian spam?

Diplomacy/player choices are also creative - one player attack, one defend? Communication will be important but not morbidly essential.

Most of my analysis is covered by Map Design, but the creativeness of this map is something special - not perfect - but unusual and feel-good.

Map Design: 4.4
Herein lieth my most mixed feelings. The first thing I saw after starting was the swampy watch tower and thought "YEAH." Taking a furthur look around showed me the strengths and weaknesses of this mapmaker.

Firstly, if you viewed this valley from outer-space it would look damn fine. The cliffs are perfect, the water is perfect, and it's all intergrated with the foot terrain well.

Unfortunately gazing at the foothills of the valley reveals a dissapointment - there are no foothills. I cannot find any elevation whatsoever - and I'm afraid it does rather show - the cacti and grass patches are nice - Very Nice, but its just lacking that eyepleasing variety.

My advice is to splash in spots of desert and vary the heights a little - just one patch each of E1 and E3 put in selectively would make a world of difference... it all looks flat.

Story/Instructions: 3.2
Ah. Yes.
The story was 5... the instructions a 2...

Quite obviously the story was going to be fictional and slightly bizzarre - well, in that sense, it is perfect - and what other sense would you wish for?!

Unfortunately let down by the instructions.. I knew I had to defend my Mor Havoc and kill the enemy team's Mor Havoc, so I started and went... where's Mor Havoc? Turns out he's an ally and my own allies are on one "side" of the valley (which I took to mean side of the water, too)... I looked in the Scenario Editor to find out exactly what was going on.

Clear instructions would have made this a much better and less puzzling experience. Not awful but leaves some to be desired!

I have no final comments as I've tackled stuff in turn. Bascially some stuff is excellent, mostly concepts and map design, just needs a little more variety and realism in the terrain (eg not being perfectly flat) and, of course, the Instructions.

Overall pretty enjoyable though.

Didn't get far enough to comment on victory conditions people seem to be stuck on... so I've stuck to reviewing mappy aspects.

RS :)

PS I have to add a rating for all sections so I'll put in a mixture of average, guessing, and what I thought of similiar relevant bits.

Basically read each section for detail.
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Hey! A review!

Firstly I'm glad you've taken your time to write this, it's always nice to know other peoples opinions on my work. Unfortunately I'm probably not planning to make another update for this as I'll be putting all my AoE time (about 36 hours/year) into future projects.

I just feel like explaining myself on some points.

This map was sort of a secondary project I was working with whenever I was tired of placing rocks in my "Age of Ice" map. Therefore I would actually say they're pretty opposite of each other. While Age of Ice was one of my more ambitious projects, with 6 months for a single map, this one was actually done pretty hastily, and while AoI was set on the barren tundra, this obviously became a rainforest.

The basic idea was to create a multiplayer map with a lot of early conflicts, but still making it possible for it to last a while. After experimenting a bit with map shapes and realizing I wanted to put some water in it I finally went with the stretched canyon shape. My goal in creating this map was mostly to create an interesting multiplayer experience, possibly after being inspired by Zappys brilliant "Coke VS Pepsi" map, and therefore neither the storyline or map design received too much attention.

On the notes of map design I definitely agree with you, some dirt areas would have done the map good. A bit of elevations, even though I'm not a big fan of them, might also have been a good addition, assuming they didn't mess with the already small building space.

The instructions could have been clearer yes, but if you ask me they do get the job done, assuming both teams explore and chat a bit from the scenario start, it shouldn't be too hard to figure it out.

The victory conditions earlier commenters have mentioned I [believe] should be fixed by now.

Once again, thank you for your review.

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