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Topic Subject:AoE I vs. AoE II units in RM and DM - who do you think would win?
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Rennie Ash
Clubman
(id: JamikKim)
posted 07-04-11 03:05 AM ET (US)         
So, if an AoE I civ was able to play an AoE II civ in a random map or deathmatch, who do you think would win, given same player skill? - Also, consider if we allow the AoE I "buildings only take 1/5 damage" or whatever it uses for buildings...

I'm thinking AoE I moving units would kill AoK moving units more easily, but buildings would be a nightmare for AoE I units to kill, full damage or not.

ALso, it seems that AoE I units are slightly cheaper, but the resourcces on a map are less.
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jordanthejq12
Clubman
posted 10-28-11 04:22 PM ET (US)     126 / 212       
And yet they fall pathetically to archers. Everyone has a weakness.

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--Me

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Aoe_1337
Clubman
posted 10-28-11 09:27 PM ET (US)     127 / 212       
And yet it would take a year to kill said hero with 2 tox archers, now is it worth it?

"Take Jason for example, his resource equivelant in Hypaspists would beat him."

Thats wrong, Jason costs 150 recourses, 2 hypasists cost 170, and Jason beats 2 hypasists quite comfortably.

[This message has been edited by Aoe_1337 (edited 10-28-2011 @ 10:46 PM).]

Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 10-30-11 02:51 PM ET (US)     128 / 212       
Everyone has weaknesses, sure, but still they are better than the other civs. Also they have decent cavalry and Huskarls to counter archers.
BSU_DoLhades
Clubman
posted 10-31-11 07:00 AM ET (US)     129 / 212       
Hypnotist wall in front of gastraphetes and Toyotas would see a quick goodbye to most Norse forces.

Liking the autocorrect on mah phone.

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Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 10-31-11 09:43 PM ET (US)     130 / 212       
Hypnotists and Toyotas FTW.

No but seriously...don't the best AoM players use the Norse?

If Toxotes, Gastraphetes and Hypaspists can deal with them so can the Chariot Archers, Axemen and Elephants...(and yet even tho they are my faves they are the weakest).

[This message has been edited by Suppiluliuma (edited 11-02-2011 @ 05:24 PM).]

Aoe_1337
Clubman
posted 11-01-11 09:32 AM ET (US)     131 / 212       
"Hypnotist wall in front of gastraphetes and Toyotas would see a quick goodbye to most Norse forces."

Jarl say hi, especially Odin Jarl.
jordanthejq12
Clubman
posted 11-05-11 01:29 PM ET (US)     132 / 212       
Either way, suffice it to say they'd beat the living hell out of any other unit in the series, except for AOEIII. Now that would give them a hard time.

"Preparation is not prevention. Just because you know what's coming does not mean you can stop it."
--Me

Something to remember: always know where you're going, but never forget where you came from.

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Aoe_1337
Clubman
posted 11-06-11 11:22 AM ET (US)     133 / 212       
Kraken would instant-win any sea battle against aoe1/aoe2, not sure about aoe3 though.
Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 11-06-11 11:59 AM ET (US)     134 / 212       
Instant win? nah, only if his special attack is charged and because a kraken can only sink one ship at a time it would only win one on one. Considering ship accuracy, Kraken population and favor cost I Still think Age of Empires Navies would be victorious.
Aoe_1337
Clubman
posted 11-07-11 01:39 AM ET (US)     135 / 212       
"Instant win? nah, only if his special attack is charged and because a kraken can only sink one ship at a time it would only win one on one. Considering ship accuracy, Kraken population and favor cost I Still think Age of Empires Navies would be victorious. "

Instant win? Hell yes. Even without his special attack he would crush the weak age of empire navy no problem. 1 kraken could probably defeat several ships alone, 3-4 of them could destroy an entire navy.
Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 11-07-11 11:20 PM ET (US)     136 / 212       
Okay, 3-4 krakens can't even defeat an AoM navy which are usually rather small (I've never seen any navy of more than 20 ships)...how could krakens defeat dozens of ships (I've seen frequesntly navies of 50-60 warships), like AoE's navies?
Aoe_1337
Clubman
posted 11-08-11 12:40 PM ET (US)     137 / 212       
Simple, aoe navy doesnt have heroic fleet. A kraken group could easily take out many aom ships before they die.
Rennie Ash
Clubman
(id: JamikKim)
posted 11-09-11 07:37 AM ET (US)     138 / 212       
I'm guessing this Kraken must have some kind of special attack/attack bonus, since 15+5 damage isn't all that powerful and 450HP (effective vs crush) is just like killing two tiremes and a fishing boat. For the 5 pop we can have 2 tiremes, 3 juggernaughts or fireships, etc, plus fireships may have an extra advantage since fire isn't exactly what you would call crush, pierce or hack damage...
Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 11-09-11 10:07 AM ET (US)     139 / 212       
also fire ships attack too fast, and Heroic Fleet is a The Titans technology even in the original AoM Kraken are defeatable, and there is no Heroic fleet technology.
BSU_DoLhades
Clubman
posted 11-10-11 04:27 PM ET (US)     140 / 212       
Dont forget Scyllas, Caricanos, Servants, War Turtles, Leviathans, jormend elvers, man O' Wars and nerieds.

Also, 2 devastating units vs ships:
Hippocampus Phoenixes
Niddhoggs (These are FREE with no pop space taken.)

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Aoe_1337
Clubman
posted 11-10-11 11:58 PM ET (US)     141 / 212       
"I'm guessing this Kraken must have some kind of special attack/attack bonus, since 15+5 damage isn't all that powerful and 450HP (effective vs crush) is just like killing two tiremes and a fishing boat. For the 5 pop we can have 2 tiremes, 3 juggernaughts or fireships, etc, plus fireships may have an extra advantage since fire isn't exactly what you would call crush, pierce or hack damage... "

Yeah, special attacks that sinks boats instantly. The kraken have 900 hp, not 450, 1100 with a upgrade. I also believe it does bonus damage to ships as well. Sure you may try to kill krakens with ships without heroic fleet, good luck with that....its not worth the time and effort/cost.
local boi
Clubman
(id: dragon14)
posted 11-11-11 02:05 AM ET (US)     142 / 212       
the 5 fireships are going to battle thje one kraken
fooshoopew
cracka aaa ha
1 is sunk already, but the kraken is taking serious damage in the time to sink that boat. 200 life gone already.
i actually havent played either in a while, so this may or may not be accurate.

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PhatFish
Mr. Beta
posted 11-11-11 09:46 AM ET (US)     143 / 212       
No but seriously...don't the best AoM players use the Norse?
Mostly Egypt in the golden days on ESO, especially Isis. There was this villagers rush you could do very quickly by transporting them to your enemies' tc using a GP... even I used it a couple of times.
Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 11-11-11 12:37 PM ET (US)     144 / 212       
Niddhoggs (These are FREE with no pop space taken.)
last time i checked one could only have one nidhogg if not cheating (and one has to be quite specific: Loki and Hel) Also itisn't specially fast.
Sure you may try to kill krakens with ships without heroic fleet, good luck with that....its not worth the time and effort/cost
I'm not a pro player (somehow i like to think that pro players don't rely on myth units to achieve victories) but before the Titans came out I used to play AoM almost daily and even tho i have to admit kraken were annoying, they were defeatable (either because AI killed mine or because I killed AI's)
There was this villagers rush you could do very quickly by transporting them to your enemies' tc using a GP...
which godpower was that? O.o
BSU_DoLhades
Clubman
posted 11-13-11 04:54 PM ET (US)     145 / 212       
Ah Sandstorm?

That would be too late though...

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PhatFish
Mr. Beta
posted 11-13-11 05:43 PM ET (US)     146 / 212       
That would be Shifting Sands (Ptah). It was a very nice strategy if executed well. You would need the Vision GP of Set too btw.
Black Euroqueb
Clubman
posted 11-13-11 07:02 PM ET (US)     147 / 212       
When I'm in a defensive method and my enemies have a superior advantage, I use shifting Sands to move their units onto my ally's town xD


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posted 11-14-11 01:26 PM ET (US)     148 / 212       
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Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 11-14-11 09:41 PM ET (US)     149 / 212       
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Guard of Osiris
Clubman
posted 11-15-11 01:37 AM ET (US)     150 / 212       
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