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Joecool1
Clubman
posted 02-24-04 09:46 PM ET (US)         
AoE or Ror. Deathmatch. Tiny map, 7 other players, Iron start, reveal on, all civs random.

Post how long you last and we'll start a Ladder. I'm going to go try it again before I do, but I doubt anyone with no allies can last more than ten or so minutes.

The Top Five

1.) BlitzKriegComin, Hardest, Roman, Hill Country,16:38W
2.) Duan Xuan, Yamato, Hill Country, 29:00
3.)Dangrimm, Hardest, Palmyran, 14:36
4.)[/c]Joecool, Hard, Choson, Highland, 9:50
5.)Doctor Lorenzo, Assyrian, Highland, 8:00

Last Updated: March 3, 2004.

[This message has been edited by Joecool1 (edited 03-04-2004 @ 07:39 PM).]

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Dangrimm
Clubman
posted 03-01-04 10:38 PM ET (US)     26 / 55       
*Stunned Silence* How the.... HOW?!?!?!?!!!
Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 03-01-04 11:41 PM ET (US)     27 / 55       
Woah, Blitz

I'll have to try again.


DR LORENZO
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Titus Labienus
Clubman
posted 03-01-04 11:55 PM ET (US)     28 / 55       
All right! That sucked! Carthage vs 7 on hardest-DM-Continental. I didn't quite make it to 8". Blitzkreig appears to be a shining star among a buncha coleman lanterns. Either that or some mutant with 4 hands and a forked tail to use the mouse with

Lab

[This message has been edited by Titus Labienus (edited 03-01-2004 @ 11:57 PM).]

Joecool1
Clubman
posted 03-02-04 00:31 AM ET (US)     29 / 55       
^Coleman lanterns...LOL.

I'm off to bed at the moment but I'll shortly update eveything. Since I mentioned that difficulty level was optional it will not bea tie-breaker, but remember to post the level you used. The only tiebreaker is Win/lose.


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Duan Xuan
Clubman
posted 03-02-04 09:10 AM ET (US)     30 / 55       
Uh, but won't it be quite an unfair comparison then?...

D XUAN
Centurion
Clubman
posted 03-02-04 11:36 AM ET (US)     31 / 55       
*won in 1 second* Hey, nobody said you couldn't use cheats...

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Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 03-02-04 05:47 PM ET (US)     32 / 55       
Maybe there should be a standard civ we have to play as.

DR LORENZO
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I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
Dangrimm
Clubman
posted 03-03-04 01:15 AM ET (US)     33 / 55       
Im gonna give it another shot, but i refuse to go lower than hardest on difficulty...
Duan Xuan
Clubman
posted 03-03-04 04:19 AM ET (US)     34 / 55       
Well, no cheats allowed then, Centurion.

I sort of agree with Doc. I mean, it would be tough to get a good timing for this challenge if you happen to get a civ that's weak in Iron.


D XUAN
Joecool1
Clubman
posted 03-04-04 07:38 PM ET (US)     35 / 55       
List Updated. Blitz....share your secret?

I think a standard civ is a bad idea, but everyone can now choose their own civ, IE play whichever you're best at.

Also, take some screens and post. Some of the 'sprawls' look pretty cool.


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BlitzkreigComin
Clubman
posted 03-04-04 08:33 PM ET (US)     36 / 55       
Actually it is pretty easy to win if you have played on the Zone for the past 4-5 years.......

A fairly easy building pattern is with 1 vill build a house, 1 vill build a barracks, and 1 vill build Town Center. Build all buildings very close to Town Center, don't waste any seconds here. Speed, speed, speed is the key.

Once barracks is up, start pumping out swordies nonstop. Have villagers that are being born destroy any staked out buildings that you can see.

Stake out a few more barracks and pump out more swordies. Really the idea here is to get a big army fast, and let the army destroy vills and buildings before they get built.

Have 3-4 barracks going strong, both Town Centers should keep making villagers. Have new villagers start building stables (and keep houses being built). Build 5-6 stables and start making war elephants (if you got em). This will be considered phase two.

Start having villagers throw up a few towers close by (if needed), but your best defense will be a stronger offense.

The third phase is to add seige to the mix. Build several seige workshops and start cranking out Cats/Balistas (if your civ's got em).

Your early swordies should be wandering the map, war eles should be massing, and seige should be starting to be massed. This army alone should allow for an easy victory against 7 comps.

Good luck, and let me know if this helps.


Can you survive the Blitzkrieg?
Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 03-04-04 11:41 PM ET (US)     37 / 55       
*plays as Roman*

DR LORENZO
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I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
Duan Xuan
Clubman
posted 03-05-04 08:20 AM ET (US)     38 / 55       
Oh, so swordies are the secret to this challenge. I concentrated more on hoplites and archers instead... no wonder. I might have a try at it later with your barracks strategy.

D XUAN
LoginError
Clubman
posted 03-05-04 11:43 PM ET (US)     39 / 55       
I was using swordsmen too, but I just didn't get enough out fast enough. (Even though I went for trying to get a whole load of Barraks up quickly.)

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Duan Xuan
Clubman
posted 03-06-04 08:20 AM ET (US)     40 / 55       
Uh... I'm beginning to think that this challenge isn't so difficult after all?... I tried out the challenge again using swordies and won it this time round. I was (and still am) a little surprised by the results.

Win: 12:41, Hittite, Hardest, Hill Country

A couple of screenshots


D XUAN
Joecool1
Clubman
posted 03-06-04 04:27 PM ET (US)     41 / 55       
*choke*

Well, now we'll just have to see how fast everyone else is now that Blitz has given up his knowledge of the ages (ages. get it? har.)

Oh, and we still don't have any times from our illustrious staff...........


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Adamant Hoplite
Clubman
posted 03-09-04 10:31 AM ET (US)     42 / 55       
Duan: ...

That can't...!! *stares in surprise* Well... well done!


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Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 03-09-04 11:27 PM ET (US)     43 / 55       
Well done, DX

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
Duan Xuan
Clubman
posted 03-10-04 06:30 AM ET (US)     44 / 55       
Thanks all. But I'm sure you will be able to do better than me. Maybe you just have to give it a few more tries. Or perhaps I was a little lucky there.

D XUAN
BlitzkreigComin
Clubman
posted 03-10-04 11:17 AM ET (US)     45 / 55       
The funny thing about this challenge to me is the computer never resigns so you have to scour the whole map looking for the 1-2 last victims before you receive "official" victory.

Victory should never really be in question after the first two-three barracks are up as long as you keep making an army.

Good job Duan Xuan, and good luck to all those to venture into this challenge.


Can you survive the Blitzkrieg?
Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 03-11-04 01:12 AM ET (US)     46 / 55       
Won in 15 Thanks Blitz.

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
Duan Xuan
Clubman
posted 03-11-04 05:54 AM ET (US)     47 / 55       
Yep, I really must thank you too, Blitz. Without your help I wouldn't even have come close to winning a game.

So... in any game (SP or MP), should I create swordies for my main infantry units or academy units? The former are cheaper and faster to produce but they aren't so strong. The latter's tough, but expensive and slow to train, and they're slower?...


D XUAN
Weatherfalls
Clubman
posted 03-11-04 09:57 AM ET (US)     48 / 55       
I don't get it where this is about.....what's a ladder? And what for challenge is it? You vs 7 computerplayers and tell what the best strategy is to use or something?

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Duan Xuan
Clubman
posted 03-12-04 07:59 AM ET (US)     49 / 55       
JoeCool hasn't been updating the "ladder"... it's more like a ranking table than a "ladder". You play DM against 7 CPs set at hardest and see how long you last. Or, if you win, tell us how long it took you to do so.

D XUAN
Duan Xuan
Clubman
posted 03-12-04 09:26 AM ET (US)     50 / 55       
I just had a go at it again and broke my own record...

Win: 12:06, Macedonian, Hardest, Hill country

I only managed to get one screenshot in the end here.

I then went for a third game but somehow, I couldn't manage to win. It was like, 9 minutes into the game and there was no clear-cut winner while I was fighting elephants + priests with my long swordsmen and STs. My second game was definitely much better. I didn't meet much (if any) resistance. Only a couple of compies and aggressive villies attacked my units.


D XUAN
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