wedsaz
Clubman
posted 03-20-01 01:05 AM
ET (US)
1 / 26
1. Civs and units that aren't all the same, but widely different.
2. Fighting that often starts in tool and lasts to the end.
3. Sometimes games don't last 10 mins, others go on for hours and hours.
4. No TC rushing.
5. The buildings and units look brighter, and you can see more of what's going on at a single glance.
6. The units you send in aren't automatically slaughtered by TCs and a tenth their number of counter-units. The defender has to fight too.
7. You don't need the latest computer to play it. If you do have a recent computer and a good connection, it should run very smoothly.
peter
HG Alumnus
posted 03-20-01 07:12 AM
ET (US)
3 / 26
Good point - silly question, silly answer.
peter
HG Alumnus
posted 03-20-01 01:18 PM
ET (US)
7 / 26
Newbies:
Well, some ppl didn't get AOE/ROR as long ago as you did and they aren't tierd of it yet as you apparently are.
Some people like to read the plays by the old Greek dramatists like Sophocles of over 2000 years ago - enough plays have been written since but that doesn't mean that the old ones aren't any good anymore.
In my view most music produced after the sixties is hardly worth listening to (okay, there are a few exceptions) - just because a game is new doesn't mean it's good or better than what is already there.
butch26
Clubman
posted 03-20-01 09:09 PM
ET (US)
13 / 26
well, having just finished playing aok for a couple weeks, i've got to say, the game is incredible. Now don't get me wrong, i have no intention of bashing aoe\ror as its still one of the all time greats in my mind, but aok has so much more. My first impression was that es took a lot of things that people diskliked in aoe\ror, (many disscussed here) and fixed them. They also added a lot of thing people wanted (again, much of it mentioned here). I wouldnt call the game rescorce hungry, unless your talking about resources of your pc. and if you are, a 400mhz with 64 mb ram is not much to me. On an average game, it is nothing to collect 70,000-100,000 of each resource except gold and stone, those are usualy around 30,000 and 10,000 respectively. The ai has been realy beefed up, as it now forward builds and does other player like things. (not as well as a human player, but a HUGE improvment over aoe). I too thought the buildings would be too strong, but they realy arn't. Its just balance. Buildings are not hard to destroy, but you have to do it right.(trebs) You need seige to smash builing quickly, and troops to protect it . And that is probably the best part of the game, siege has finnaly been reigned in. Its still very powerfull, but now is much more vulnerable. (much as i've seen suggested here 1,000 times.) Finnaly, the game is about more than builing 150 archers in less than 12 minutes. But, i'm not posting this to praise the game, just to say everone should give it a try. I too thought it would be bad, but after i watched a recorded game with the sherrif and two other es employees against 5 others, it simply blew me away.
On a separate note, tc rushing is pretty much dead. es put an end to it with the patch. It was a problem when the game was first released, but is now fixed. Rushing is still done, but not usualy in the dark (stone) age. It usualy begins in feudal (tool) age. Ive seen a few recorded games where it was done very effectivly. Yes you can put your vills in your tc, but then your econ goes to hell, and you wont be around for but a few more minutes. Add to all this the market, formations, an almost never ending supply of gold, and you have one heck of a game.
butch26
Clubman
posted 03-20-01 09:54 PM
ET (US)
16 / 26
Well, different strokes ect, ect. Your right (i think) about the aok forums, as i have never posted there myself. I still don't consider it too tecnical. Maybee a little, but i believe es did it to prevent the aoe effect of only seeing archers, chariots, and hcat every game. its nice to use\need barracks units for a change. I dont understand what you mean by wide spread acceptance. If more people bought it than aoe, and more people play online (ie, still interested in it) than aoe, how can it not have widespread acceptance? (that not an aok sells more so its better line, just dont understand your reasoning.) And as for the computer thing, it wasn't an attempt at "mine is bigger than yours", i just dont think in a time of 1.5 ghz processors and 128mb standard ram that a 400mhz 64mb is that steep a reqirement. In closeing, i still play aoe/ror, and think it definitly rocks, and will probably always play it, but now i can happily say the same of aok.
butch26
Clubman
posted 03-20-01 10:06 PM
ET (US)
18 / 26
i figured as much. but anyway, you ever play fps games?
butch26
Clubman
posted 03-20-01 10:10 PM
ET (US)
20 / 26
firs person shooters, ie doom, quake ect.
butch26
Clubman
posted 03-20-01 10:23 PM
ET (US)
22 / 26
no, but i have to go soon anyway. Just asking cause if you like those games (i know a lot of people dont) try deus ex (game of the year). It will blow you away. I was alway an rts guy myself, but got it as a gift and gave it a try. It will probably change the way fps games are made.