The Composite
Clubman
posted 04-18-00 06:01 PM ET (US)
I have no clue which civ is the best. I always use Palmrayan. I don't know why. I just ended up useing it. I also use Roman a lot.
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 04-19-00 02:59 PM
ET (US)
5 / 16
SuN_Cam_Popov:
I'm not so sure about assy in tool age, seeing as how they lack slingers...
Yamato's cavs would have problems against camels in bronze, and for anything else they do there minoan is better. But, against a civ that has no camels such as roman or mace, ... YEAH!
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 04-20-00 01:50 AM
ET (US)
7 / 16
SuN_Cam_Popov:
Double BS.
1. Yams are NOT faster than minos. I have yet to see yam do 12 min bronze in RM. Cavs can be stopped, if you can spell C-A-M-E-L-S.
2. Assy does NOT tool faster than slow civs. I have yet to see assy do faster than 7 mins tool in RM. I'd like to know what you do with armored clubbers against towers in your town. Mace is probably a better candidate for armored clubber rushing, their clubbers have extra LoS. Phoenie have more wood for forward buildings. I even had some good experiences with babylonian tower rushing.
I'm not saying you're completely wrong, just that you're not completely right.
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 04-20-00 05:36 AM
ET (US)
9 / 16
SuN_Cam_Popov:
I've never seen 12 min bronze with yam in default RM. I've seen many 14s, and even an occasional 13 when they had a good spot, but not 12. I'm not a rook, you are.
Can't you tell the difference between "7 mins" and "faster than 7 mins"? No, you're not a rook you're an idiot.
Minoan can't be easily wiped out. You're not an idiot, you're just plain stupid.
I seriously doubt you can tool 6 mins, let alone do anything with it if you do. Get a brain.
"Quarry" Oh, you're a cheater too?
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 04-20-00 10:36 PM
ET (US)
11 / 16
You started with the insults.
I have never seen yam bronze under 12 without shorefish. I didn't say it couldn't be done, just that I never saw it in 2 years of AoE and RoR. If you can, can you please tell us how? (how many villies in stone and tool, approximate building order, etc)
Oh, and get off the "come to esquiline" crap, you know perfectly well I can't play for a good while. When I can, be assured I'll take you up on that.
SuN_Cam_Popov
Clubman
posted 04-21-00 07:32 PM
ET (US)
13 / 16
...Another thing: You've never saw a brz under 12 with Yams in the 10 years you've been playing the game...so prolly it can't be achieved: so tell me how I could do that? ;-) I wonder how :=)
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 04-21-00 07:42 PM
ET (US)
14 / 16
11 mins bronze, not 5 mins, and yes I use hunting.
If yams can use SF don't you think other civs can use it too? I assume you already know only 1 civ actually gathers shore fish faster, and it's not yam. In other words, I think if yam can gain an extra 2 minutes from SF so can minoan, shang or even greek. Please explain why not if I'm wrong.
Persian hunting is a unique advantage. They can still use the SF after there's no hunting left.
Still, I don't think even persia's speed is enough to make up for their weaker bronze vs shang and minoan. Against hittite is another story, because it's bronze units vs tool units for several minutes, but shang and minoan are fast enough to defend with matching or superior units. I think the same can be said in the case of yam.
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 04-21-00 08:20 PM
ET (US)
16 / 16
How many axemen does it take to kill 10 cavs?