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Ender
Guest
posted 12-09-98 11:00 AM ET (US)         
This is a list of the top 10 advantages Greek was going to have but they proved too powerful. This was leaked to me by a high ranking official at Microsoft.

10. 49 food villagers- After some serious thought it was decided the 24 food saved before bronze would make Greek too fast.

9. +1 piercing armor for clubmen- With this the Greek clubmen rush was simply dominating. To think we almost gave this bonus to the axemen as well!

8 Tribute only cost 24%.- Since Greek is the most common civ to tribute with before resigning this proved to be too beneficial to the Greeks partners

7. Acadamy +2 armor against wildlife- With this bonus the greek acadamy simply ripped apart the wild life.

6. 25% cheaper transports- This advantage prolonged games too much, The Greek player could afford even more transports for running their villagers away.

5. Double size catapult- WOW! 10 of these things filled up the entire screen!

4. +2 armor fish ships- This advance simply made fishing ships dominate, it took a full 10 seconds for a fire galley to kill one of these.

3. +1 attack bronze/iron age archers- We saw how powerful this bonus was for Hittite, we even were going to tone it down and not give it to the Greek bowmen but we decided it was just too powerful.

2. 30% faster walls and towers- As of this point walls and towers don't move, but if they did Greek's would move the fastest by far

1. Double hit point farms- This was way too powerful as a defensive unit. The farms simply blocked the paths while the academy units sat there behind them just waiting in case the farms should fall.


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Hari_Smurf
Inactive
posted 12-09-98 11:31 AM ET (US)     1 / 36       
Ender,
ROFLOL
Cheers for this one. And thanks for posting on this forum generally, I prefer the atmosphere and presentation of this forum but unfortunately your fellow experts seem to generally stick to the others.

Hari_Smurf


Laelius
Clubman
posted 12-09-98 01:34 PM ET (US)     2 / 36       
ROFLAO, Darn I wish they would have kept those changes as it is now I lose 6 to 7 hoplites to crocidiles in late bronze scouting, and by the time my clubbers arrive in enemy towns that +1 piercing armour would have helped aggainst the Shang Horse Archers, I always end up faceing.


Themistocles
Clubman
posted 12-09-98 02:07 PM ET (US)     3 / 36       
Bravo!!!! It's so funny, that it is probably true!!!!


Themistocles

NoSoup4U
Inactive
posted 12-09-98 02:51 PM ET (US)     4 / 36       
Ender,

I think you forgot the swim for your lives villager bonus which is usually effective around the 25 minute mark.

Very funny.


Washizu
HG Alumnus
(id: Angel Washizu)
posted 12-09-98 04:19 PM ET (US)     5 / 36       
Hahahaha, nice Ender. Very creative.

Washizu


Sting
Clubman
posted 12-09-98 04:22 PM ET (US)     6 / 36       
lol


Nineveh
Inactive
posted 12-09-98 09:22 PM ET (US)     7 / 36       
10 points.

What about +2 Farm LOS? Very useful when trying to count how many chariot archers are tearing up your base before resigning.

"Hey partner, blue has 15 CA. I'm cooked, my clubmen couldn't handle that kind of firepower!"

"Can I have your resources?"

"Sure"

*You trib 37 food, 78 wood and 3 gold*

"Thanks man!"

[This message has been edited by Nineveh (edited 12-09-98).]

Themistocles
Clubman
posted 12-09-98 10:11 PM ET (US)     8 / 36       
We must thank god that they didn't give the Greeks the option to build only blind, lame priests. That's what I call power overwhelming.


Themistocles

FanatiC KaBaN
Clubman
posted 12-28-98 11:47 PM ET (US)     9 / 36       
I don't know, i still see Greeks as a good civ and a good challenge. I mean in a Med map if you get middle and you are Greek, you can dominate. Just a though.

I know we have been through this so i will just shut up.

Kaban


SandyMan
Big Daddy
(id: ES_Sandyman)
posted 12-29-98 04:04 PM ET (US)     10 / 36       
very funny, Ender. I was amused.


PheNoL
Inactive
posted 12-30-98 00:03 AM ET (US)     11 / 36       
LoL Ender....

WoW you even got Sandy to respond to it!! Congrats!! [ hehe ]


PheNoL

[This message has been edited by PheNoL (edited 12-30-98).]

Banshee
Banned
posted 12-31-98 02:54 AM ET (US)     12 / 36       
I remember reading this on gamer.com about 2-3 weeks ago. Way to funny!

I can't remember who posted it but if it wasn't you just make sure to give the guy credit for doing it, if you really didn't make it up.

Banshee


Ender
Guest
posted 12-31-98 06:53 AM ET (US)     13 / 36       
yeah it was me, I posted on both forums the same day, its just been sitting in the unposted sectoin for a bit now


AE Kosh3
Inactive
posted 01-01-99 05:18 AM ET (US)     14 / 36       
hehe Ninveh's post was quite good too

When ever i get greeks the sound of an archon in SC saying "Power Overwhelming" flashes thru my mind :7D


CTYF_Regnatas
Inactive
posted 01-01-99 09:26 AM ET (US)     15 / 36       
Ummmmmm..ok.


CTYF_Regnatas
Inactive
posted 01-01-99 09:33 AM ET (US)     16 / 36       
ok, I know that greek been stereotyped as bad civ, and its good because when I get greeks people probly think aha a rookie, and then. F.U.C.K. I got cavs in my town, HELP, the damn hoplite killing the buildings chariots dont work against that mix,offcorse camelriders dont too, it would be stupid to build STs, and even if someone survives the bronze they get killed in Iron. We all agree that Greek Iron is very strong.

Just remeber the civs dont make you, you make the civs


Ex_Akaval
Inactive
posted 01-01-99 08:26 PM ET (US)     17 / 36       
lol....... oh wait its not funny, but its stupid, it makes it kinda funny.......lol.......

ummm I need good quote here( cant think of now)


Ex_Akaval
Inactive
posted 01-01-99 08:28 PM ET (US)     18 / 36       
still didnt click in


Ex_Akaval
Inactive
posted 01-01-99 08:31 PM ET (US)     19 / 36       
I am really bored
heres a quote

"In space the stars are no nearer"


FanatiC KaBaN
Clubman
posted 01-01-99 11:26 PM ET (US)     20 / 36       
Errrr..... I thought there really was 5 new posts. And its only 2 people posting... Sheeeesh....

Oh, well.... let me add something:

Triple Hit Point Villagers, but that addition would make the the ideal Stone Age Villager Rush Civ...

- FanatiC KaBaN


Lysimachus
Clubman
posted 01-05-99 03:29 AM ET (US)     21 / 36       
Arn't Greek accadamy units semi-resistant vs. catapults? I thought I read that some where in the AoE heaven sight!!!!!


ricktsu
Inactive
posted 01-05-99 04:02 AM ET (US)     22 / 36       
you about summed up the effectiveness of greeks.....lol..


Potejon
Clubman
posted 01-05-99 05:40 AM ET (US)     23 / 36       
ROTFLMAO!!
Funny, hehe, can't laugh to loud cus i am at school but FUNNY!!!

lolololololololololololololololololoooooooolollolololololooolololololol


POTE!!!!!!!!!
"Delirantes, isti Romani!"
(These Romans are crazy!!)

Asterix_FC
HTML-consultant, use ICQ:19922746 or mail me asmo@c2i.net yeah greg I am!

Phil_The_Great
Clubman
posted 01-05-99 12:13 PM ET (US)     24 / 36       
Big Smile!

*Ahem*... I... kinda changed my mind over the last weeks about greeks... I have to admit (do not laugh or I'll twist your neck and bend your arm), they're inferior in most games settings...



Nineveh
Inactive
posted 01-05-99 12:16 PM ET (US)     25 / 36       
11. +6 Transport LOS means that your lst tranny wont accidentally unload your 3 vills right in the middle of his island! Very useful when running.

12. Hoplites 40% faster. Too powerful, now they make it 3/4 of the way to the CA before they die.

13. Because of all those Greek speed bonuses they needed a penalty, so their villagers are 15% slower. It always seems that way to me!

Well I couldn'y come up with any good additions, but I tried

I kinda like tranny LOS tho.


-Nineveh, "Minister for Compy Equality"
ICQ 16407576

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