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Kanyon
Inactive
posted 05-04-99 10:50 PM ET (US)         
About 2 nights ago I decided to fire up my Age of Empires and play a game on the Zone. I decided to take a one on one game. I found an oppoment by the name of FWH_Wolfpack. We had a one on one. I was doing alright. (for me) I checked the timelines and other stuff often. About 4 minutes into the game I checked the economy screen. What the fuck! 6 Villigers? What the hells up with that? I said to myself "Hahaha. Easy win." Then I ate my words. I looked at the timeline and saw that he was on Iron Age! What the *****again!!! I asked him about it and was immeadiatly called a whiner, loser, and a nobody. He said he will now "punish me" for my "incompetence". I laughed at him. About 1 minute, maybe 2 minutes, 20 armored elephants walked smack into the center of my town. Boy was I angry. I was totally, and utterly decimated. Not only because I was beaten by a low down cheater, but because it was a rated game along with it!

So just be warned. FWH_Wolfpack is a cheater.

This has been a public service.

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Jehu
Inactive
posted 05-04-99 11:13 PM ET (US)     1 / 57       
I've teamed with FWH_Wolfpack many times and I frankly don't believe this. If he were gonna use a trainer he would not use his normal zone nick.

However, he exposed a cheater on a previous thread that sounds a lot like this. Is it possible for someone to get access to FWH_Wolfpack's nick and use it like this on the zone? If someone is smart enough to develope a cheat code, why couldn't they develope a way to steal zone IDs?

Something is wrong with this story. Are you sure this wasn't an iron start DM or high resource game?

Furthermore, if someone as experienced and well known on the zone as Wolfpack were to use a trianer he would be way more subtle than that in a default game.

Jehu

[This message has been edited by Jehu (edited 05-04-99).]

Bolshi_Basci
Inactive
posted 05-05-99 05:49 AM ET (US)     2 / 57       
Yes,
I agree with Jehu I smell a rat.
Wolfpack is clean and he fights with honour.

Bolshi_Basci
Inactive
posted 05-05-99 05:50 AM ET (US)     3 / 57       
BTW if this is a joke then its in bad taste.
Scarab
Clubman
posted 05-05-99 09:58 AM ET (US)     4 / 57       
What a load of horse sh*t, Kanyon.

We know better than to beleive a bunch of BS like that. Wolfpack is a class act.

RajunCajunBoy
Inactive
posted 05-05-99 10:39 AM ET (US)     5 / 57       
Hey Kanyon, if this is true then surely you have a screenshot. Please post it, or lets us know if you were just joking.
joecho
Clubman
posted 05-05-99 10:48 AM ET (US)     6 / 57       
I had a game in which I was teamed up with one of the FWH's. I forget if it was Wolfpack or not, but I think it was. But when I mentioned that I was a rookie, FWH_* went into a detailed start up scheme (the 6 vills on berries start), and took my inquiries very professinally and patiently. Unfortunately, the lag on the game was very bad, and the host decided to dump the game early. Which was a realy bummer, since I was really hoping to hear FWH_*'s thoughts in the later stages of the game.

Anyway, if that is any indication of FWH behavior, this story can't possibly be true. One wonders about Kanyon.

-joecho

FWH_Foistie
Inactive
posted 05-05-99 10:56 AM ET (US)     7 / 57       
Thanks to all the people who have posted replies and stood up for my friend FWH_Wolfpack.

To the author of the original post, I suggest that you use far more discretion the next time you leave a post such as this. FWH_Wolfpack is a superior player and relies on intelligence, skill, and knowledge to win his games. He has no need of anything else.

I do not doubt for a moment that Wolfy called you a whiner. Your original post shows clearly that that is exactly what you are...

Consider:

1) Prior to your post, you never further investigated the skill level of Wolfpack nor did you determine whether he has a current reputation on the zone.

2) You offered no 'proof' of your allegations beyond the fact that you were beaten and beaten soundly.

3) You provide no screenshots to support your allegations. Screenshots, which if you had reviewed in retrospect, would have shown you clearly how and why Wolfpack beat you so handily.

4) You be-smerched the name of a person well known on the zone for no apparent reason other than to 'get back at him for beating you.'

Conclusion:

You have taken your whining out of the game and posted it on a public forum, only to have it strike back and lash you strongly in the face. Please note that some of the posters on this thread have also lost playing against Wolfpack and yet, clearly show respect for him.

Hopefully a lesson was learned, but frankly, a public apology by yourself in also in order. We all make mistakes and we all have whined as we matured into the game itself. And we have all learned how to 'eat our words' at times and apologize later. However, in your case, it's a bit more public and therefore publicly required.

Choose your words carefully....

Jaheed
Inactive
posted 05-05-99 01:37 PM ET (US)     8 / 57       
Kanyon, you came to the wrong place. There is NO WAY you can convince me Wolfpack cheated in a game. You can forge as many shots you want and I won't believe. I've already played with Wolf enough times, teaming together or against, to know he's a good and honest player. Stop this pittiful attempt and go back to the lamers corner.

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May your weapons be sharp and your ping be green

armagedn
Clubman
posted 05-05-99 01:40 PM ET (US)     9 / 57       
Gotta go w/ the flow on this one. Havin' only recently been on the receivin' end of his attacks, I can say that he did it like a professional.

I don't know if it's possible to go incognito under someone else's name, but even the words you say he used don't sound at all like the guy I played against last week.

Always make sure you have the facts straight first.

FWH_Wolfpack
Inactive
posted 05-05-99 02:26 PM ET (US)     10 / 57       

I don't know who you are, but I can't remember the last time I only had 6 vills in four minutes. You are either making this up or someone else is using my name. I also rarely use armor eles as most of the people remember I play with will vouch for. Just not my style. As stated by many below you offer no proof of your allegations and appear to merely flame/embarrass me. Please stop your false accusations.
Last_Knight
Clubman
posted 05-05-99 02:30 PM ET (US)     11 / 57       
I have never played with wolfpack, but from what Kenyon says (I'll consider it as truth and not in DM), these cheaters are horrible.
I hope ES will do something against hacks and trainers in next patch.

I dunno if it's a hack or just a bad luck, but I played once with someone with green ping to me (from my own country), and when I started to kill his villagers with tons of CAs, and found out he's in tool age (he had no chance), I was suddenly disconnected from the game. We had no lag in the entire game.
I hope these cases will be prevented in the next patch.

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Last Knight
Zone Name: Last_Knight_
My ICQ # is: 7974168 and I'm currently .
http://members.xoom.com/AOK_Castle

apocalypse77
Clubman
posted 05-05-99 03:16 PM ET (US)     12 / 57       
I think you guys are being a bit harsh. I think Kanyon was a little pi**ed off, anybody would have been. As to if he's telling the truth or not, I've never played with wolfie, but he sounds like a class act. I figure that here everybody gets at least one chance. I'd like to hear what Kanyon has to say about this too.
fangr
Inactive
posted 05-05-99 05:01 PM ET (US)     13 / 57       
Well personally I've played a couple of people in FWH... and all of them are class acts. From those I've played I know that all of them are good players. Most of them are better than me... (ok my ego is shining through in that statement) I seriously doubt any allegation of this sort just because of the reputation of the clan. Fight With Honor probably says it all... Oh and by the way... I went and tested in a dm... just to see how fast I could iron with 6 vills and it's nowhere near 4 minutes... Even if you are using a trainer to get unlimited resources 6 vills cannot build the necessary buildings to get to iron in 4 minutes... In fact you can't even reach bronze in 4 minutes... (pressing the bronze button around 3:00 flat after building 3 vills for a total of 6, 1 house, 1 barrack, 1 sp, wait till tool, build a stable and a archery with 3 vills each) Which means that you wouldn't even be bronzed until then... Oh and how long does the armored elephant upgrade take? In any event if you're going to accuse someone of cheating you should at least pick times that are accomplishable within the framework of the game given unlimited resources... Just my 2 cents...
Kanyon
Inactive
posted 05-05-99 09:44 PM ET (US)     14 / 57       
No I dont have a screenshot! Whats all this talk about Wolfpack being a "class act?" People who cheat have no class at all! Maybe this wasnt the real Wolfpac. Maybe it was some imposter. But I doubt it. I truly, and honestly do.

Oh and for the original stats of the game heres what they were:

1on1 Random Map, No Reveal Map, No Full Tech, Pop Limit 100, Stone Age start, default resources.

Of course I know some of you are total ass kiss's and will not believe for a minute that your hero would take an extra step towards victory. Thats ok. I understand. You just go on believing in Wolfpack because he is such a "class act"

fangr
Inactive
posted 05-06-99 02:03 AM ET (US)     15 / 57       
As I said in my previous reply... Do the math before posting accusations... You can't iron from a DEATH MATCH start with 6 villagers in that amount of time no matter how many resources you have, much less get the upgrade for armored elephants... unless you're saying that there is some other way to get completed buildings / units / age upgrades in a shorter time...
Bolshi_Basci
Inactive
posted 05-06-99 06:11 AM ET (US)     16 / 57       
You are quite literally pissing in the wind Kanyon. The reason that people are jumping down your throat is that there is one thing worse than being cheated against and that's being falsely accused of cheating. And there is one thing worse than a cheat and that's someone who falsely accuses others of cheating. Congratulations you just stooped about as low as someone can get online.

jihad_jake
Inactive
posted 05-06-99 10:08 AM ET (US)     17 / 57       
Kanyon are you quite sure you were playing FWH_Wolfpack ? I noticed that in your reply you spelled it Wolfpac are you sure that wasn't the name ? Perhaps you played FWH_Wolfpac without the k ?
kurtiebird
Inactive
posted 05-06-99 10:14 AM ET (US)     18 / 57       
Look around in this forum, and you will find a thread called ROR TRAINER EXISTS written by none other than the accused. Notice that Wolfpack included screenshots of his game. Now, I'll be the first to admit that screenshots can be doctored, but even so, such proof of cheating goes a long way toward acceptance of your claim.

Also, Wolfpack, I am assuming from your post that you did not play Kanyon in a rated game on May 2. Is that the case? If so, either Kanyon is making the whole thing up, or someone was posing as you (or a similar name).

Anyway, as has been said, Wolfpack has a reputation as an honorable player. We don't know you, Kanyon, so who the **** do you expect us to believe, given absolutely no proof?

Kurtiebird
Veni Vidi Vici
VVV_Kurtiebird

FWH_Wolfpack
Inactive
posted 05-06-99 11:10 AM ET (US)     19 / 57       
You have a lot of nerve Kanyon. You come to a public forum and accuse someone of cheating without any proof whatsoever. Just your accusations. As someone else noted and I just tried out in a DM scenario, it is impossible to do all that you said in 8 min with six peons. It takes nine minutes just to go from stone to iron and get the armor ele upgrade. This doesn't even include building any buildings, getting the 2 necessary shields, one of which must be gotten once you iron, or the time it would take to walk those slow eles into the middle of your town. I also noted that if "Kanyon" is the name you use on the zone, according to the zone, as of this post, you have played NO rated games in ROR or AOE. Now you said we played a rated 1v1. If this is so, and presuming you've also played rated before which I get from the tone of your post, you should have some games played, but you don't. Lastly, since I don't know you, nor ever remember playing you, please take the time to "make up" the two civs we played since you failed to mention them too?
joecho
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 12:02 PM ET (US)     20 / 57       
"Oh yeah, I remember clearly. You used them Egyptians! Those cheating Egyptian Armored Elephants! And me, I used Shang, to give myself a handicap. Those Shang villagers don't get fed as much, so they are much weaker. You didn't know that, did you? You cheaters don't know a thing about the game. - Kanyon"

-joecho

Knight_Night
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 12:17 PM ET (US)     21 / 57       
OK...I would just like to point out that trying to iron in 6 mins in a DM is irrelevant. Take a look at the top times per civ in the RoR ratings..1:01 tool, 2:01 bronze...I dont think I saw an incredible iron time last tim I looked...maybe cheaters are too dumb to go for a 3:01 iron..I dont know. I personnaly dont think I have played a cheater who visibly cheated his way through the ages, however I once played someone called thepalmyrian or something. Anyways, I had the constant man going (never a pause between building villagers from the very start) and it seemed that the palmyrian..who was palmers..was riding me for villager high until I was dropped at about 8 mins into the game. I didnt see what he was doing so I cant make accusations but I did see that he did have the same number of vills as I did at the time of my drop.

Another thing about imposters. In my clan there is an _RCF_CASIUS and _RCF_SillySil played a trick on him by creating a zone name _RCF_CASLUS, which looks almost identicle to each other as zone names. As some of you may have seen some rather obscene names from people who change letters to look like others i.e. 0's and o's

Kanyon
Inactive
posted 05-06-99 03:04 PM ET (US)     22 / 57       
I notice none of you point out that there might just be a fast building cheat. I know that the trainer gives you the cheat codes and that there is a code known as steroids in the game. Now if it were the steroids cheat wouldnt I build fast too?

Did you ever consider that possibilty, or did you just say "Well...he is such a 'class act' he couldnt have cheated!"

Class act...hahaha. Why dont you notice that you put the word act in there? Thats all it is. Its all an act. Nothing but an act.

Scarab
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 03:14 PM ET (US)     23 / 57       
A stong possibility is that your opponent was an imposter. Perhaps the name was FHW_Wolfpack or FWH_Wolfpac.

If you're going to accuse some one of cheating, you should bring some proof to back up your claims. Without it, your claim is difficult to swallow. FWH_Wolfpack has a reputation as a skilled player who plays fair and within the rules.

If there is a fast building cheat/bug, from what I know about Wolfpack, I do not believe that he would use it.

FWH_Wolfpack
Inactive
posted 05-06-99 04:00 PM ET (US)     24 / 57       
Yes Kanyon, there is a steroids cheat and it is global so if one someone is using the trainer and enables it, then everyone will have it. Therefore, even if I had played you and cheated, you would have know about it instantly and thus it would have been very easy to take a few screenshots to prove your case, but as of yet you have failed to bring forth one shred of evidence and continue to make outlandish claims. Which are both untrue and defaming.
FanatiC KaBaN
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 04:59 PM ET (US)     25 / 57       
This reminds me of the Salem Witch hunt, or the Communist "hunt" during the Cold War... lol i mean come on, before you know it everyone is gonna be accussing each other as being cheaters. Kanyon just don't say anything more, you have made you point now go on and keep playing, (get a new name maybe ) and avoid Wolfpack if you think he cheated.

Yesterday i played a game against Wolfpack in a MiC party and he nuked me with a Sync error, Just kidding! heh.. sorry about that though, that really looked like a fun game.

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FanatiC KaBaN
kaban.cjb.net


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