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Angel Draco
HG Lawgiver
posted 01-14-99 11:36 PM ET (US)         
#23 Michael Jordan
13 Seasons w/the Chicago Bulls; NBA Titles-6; MVP Awards-5; Playoff MVP Awards-6 (NBA record); 1985 Rookie of the Year; Career Scoring Avg-31.5 (record); Playoff Scoring Avg-33.4 (record); League Scoring Titles-10 (record); Highest Points Scored in a Single Playoff Game-63 (record); Number of Seasons Scored 2000+ Points-11 (record); Total Points Scored-29,277; Number of Games Jordan Scored less than 10 points-1. I'd list more but this post would get too long! Click here for the Jordan Archives.

I only got to see him play once, during the 1997 NBA Playoffs vs. the Utah Jazz. There is absolutely nothing in life I have found more thrilling than watching Michael Jordan play basketball. Thanks Mike. *sigh*

"Sometimes I dream, that he is me...Like Mike, I'd like to be like Mike."
[sung to the tune of our favorite Gatorade commercial]

Angel "Proconsul" Draco

posted 01-14-99 11:56 PM ET (US)     1 / 31       

posted 01-15-99 00:47 AM ET (US)     2 / 31       
Huh, whaddya want? Who cares about basketball, anyway?

Weīve had a lot of interesting not exactly AoE/RoR related threads, but I donīt see the point in publishing a picture of Michael Whatīs-his-name (yep, I know who he is, but I actually donīt give a damn).

Please just stop it, it really doesnīt belong here!

The Vixeness Herself

posted 01-15-99 01:22 AM ET (US)     3 / 31       
Yup,we don't care about Michel Jordache!

posted 01-15-99 02:24 AM ET (US)     4 / 31       
I care about MJ, he is the best of the best.
(Great Pix)


posted 01-15-99 02:58 AM ET (US)     5 / 31       
As a Chicagoan (all my life), I can only say it's a very sad day. I'll miss watching him, and miss the feeling of pride he brought to our city. But I have my memories (I, too, have seen him play, even at the old Chicago Stadium), and I'm happy for him. He went out a champion.

As to it's relation to AoE/RoR. Uh, lessee... "practice practice practice. work had, and aspire to be the best." (Or perhaps not, but it IS a good picture!)

posted 01-15-99 09:13 AM ET (US)     6 / 31       

Something we can agree on, my friend.

I grew up wanting to "be like" Jerry West and Wilt Chamberlin. But there is no doubt that MJ is the best ever. His amazing skills, combined with an asounding will to succede made him the most fearsome competitor I've ever seen in any sport. And he did it with dignity and grace.

My own personal opinion is that we haven't seen the last of him.


posted 01-15-99 11:51 AM ET (US)     7 / 31       
well hopefully between the strike and MJ retiring the NBA will die and we can put it out of its misery.

posted 01-15-99 11:56 AM ET (US)     8 / 31       
Yes, MacRat - Michael's always been one for bringing people together! And you're probably right - you may see MJ again (assuming you hang out on the links....)

posted 01-15-99 01:23 PM ET (US)     9 / 31       
Hi, armagedn!

I was pretty sure that you would have to say something on this thread

Regards from
The Vixeness

posted 01-15-99 01:58 PM ET (US)     10 / 31       

Why do you want the NBA to die?


sorry for the non-aoe/ror thread, vixeness.

Angel Draco
HG Lawgiver
posted 01-15-99 03:20 PM ET (US)     11 / 31       
I do not understand comments like Vixen's and Omisan's. God forbid that a non-ROR thread appears on the forum! Over at C3, half the threads are non-caesar3! The point of Heaven and these forums is to foster a community. A place where gamers with a common interest may come together to exchange not only ideas about their favorite games, but themselves as well.

posted 01-15-99 05:28 PM ET (US)     12 / 31       
Draco: post anything you want dont listen to them

Well as a chicagoan (or suburbs, but im still kinda near chicago ) I can honestly say michael leaving was a sad thing...when it happened a few years back. Then he just comes back. Oh well, go figure. He may come back, and this may be a publicity stunt, but I dont think it is. He is the greatest basketball player to ever live, or at least professionally play. period.

His retirement aint tearing me up inside, but I will miss watching him lead the rest of those slackers (just kidding!!) into the finals and winning it all. I will miss standing outside hearing gunfire and lighting off fireworks with my friends, cause without jordan things just wont be the same...

posted 01-15-99 06:07 PM ET (US)     13 / 31       
It was a lock out, not a strike.

What's the difference? It's like getting fired or laid off vs. quitting. If you've ever been let go, you know the difference matters.


posted 01-15-99 07:25 PM ET (US)     14 / 31       

Yes, Iīm gracious, I do forgive you

And I did mention there have been some great non-Aoe/RoR related threads, didnīt I? I should know..., I really should.

Okay, okay, I apologize. May I say that I donīt like sports in general, maybe thatīs why Iīm not interested in sports-related threads. But posting there anyway, yes, Iīve noticed that myself, no need to remind me.

Go ahead, make my day!

CU all


posted 01-15-99 07:53 PM ET (US)     15 / 31       

Unless Michael is now playing AOE/ROR now that he has more time on his hands... I gotta ask...


It would be cool if he played, that would bea kinda neat beating Jordons butt in something.

- Patamon

de Maupassant
posted 01-15-99 09:21 PM ET (US)     16 / 31       
Nice picture, Draco.

I have a similar poster in my room.

Yup, we're gonna miss him, and I don't think he'll ever come back. And without him, NBA will never be the same ...

For the people who doesn't like Mike or basketball, it's pretty obvious you guys have no life besides AoE/RoR .

... just kidding ...

[This message has been edited by de Maupassant (edited 01-15-99).]

posted 01-15-99 10:34 PM ET (US)     17 / 31       

Angel Draco said:

Over at C3, half the threads are non-caesar3!

I say:
Well that tells you much about the quality of C3 if people are discussing other issues so soon already .

But I understand your point. It is nice to SOMETIMES have a topic that doesn't relate to AoE/RoR/AoK immediately. I liked the post about the Ager's favorite music. I never knew so many people were stupid enough to listen to that noise that Marylin Manson (or what's his/their name) makes.

Frankly, I don't care about basketball and I certainly don't care about Michael Jordan. The only sport I like watching is women tennis .


FanatiC KaBaN
posted 01-15-99 11:16 PM ET (US)     18 / 31       
He left!! wohoo!! ...

oh, sorry... i was jut getting tired of his domination of NBA, now maybe i can actually see Charlotte win ...

posted 01-18-99 10:06 AM ET (US)     19 / 31       
Sorry, FanatiC_Kaban.... but CHARLOTTE???

No, now that the NBA is a far lesser league, sort of a CBA+, the new Kids on the Block will be the Pacers (I do not say this w/ any joy, but the season will bear this out.) Charlotte? Pleez. Maybe the 12th or 13th best team in the league, if THAT.

posted 01-18-99 09:48 PM ET (US)     20 / 31       
concerning basketball: what else are u going to watch, hockey . don't worry canadians, i watch hockey, so don't take offense(is there any in hockey ?) i have been a bulls fan all my life, although i live in rural pa. it's sad to see him go, but know dicky simpkins and judd bushler can shine in chicago, hehe. i'm switching to the kings as my favorite team now. mitch richmond is the next micheal, or maybe shawn bradley the morman. i love reading forums about any subject, so post away.

go falcons!!!!!!!!!!!!

kib i

[This message has been edited by kibi (edited 01-18-99).]

posted 01-19-99 12:28 PM ET (US)     21 / 31       

Shawn Bradley is the next Manute Bol!

posted 01-19-99 01:08 PM ET (US)     22 / 31       
Actually I just have to say how much I hope the away (to put it nicely ) as well. I cant believe how players are complaining when rookies come into the league with $120 million dollor contracts! I could not believe the audacity some players had to complain about their 'expenses' accumulating during the strike. One player sat there and almost cryed when he thought about selling one of his eight customized automobiles since he could not afford the insurance along with his three mortgage payments. Awwwww, boo hoo. I had a tear in my eye for him. What a crock. It amazes me what tyoe of mentality exists within the NBA. Most other professional leagues arent much better mind you, but NBA definately takes the cake (although Baseball runs a damn close second, but atleast they arent going on stike every other year.) Michael was an all round Professional. He never asked for the $25 million given to him, the bulls offered it. He probably would have played for his old salary, less then those new whining babies that come in nowadays. And while I was a large Basketball fan back a few years ago, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth nowadays.

posted 01-19-99 02:07 PM ET (US)     23 / 31       
Actually posty, you are playing revisionsit history here. Mike did ask ofr the millions from chicago. He threatened to retire each of the last 3 years if Phil did not come back as coach and he did not get $25 million or $36 million or whatever he was payed. He is the best all around basketball player ever. He is no saint. He is a consuemate professional and as competative as anyone. I loved watching him play.

posted 01-19-99 02:59 PM ET (US)     24 / 31       
armagedn, you are deeper than the Marianas Trench, quicker than a firewalking fakir, and as trenchant a commentator on the passing scene as PJ O'Rourke or Dave Barry ever was. I used to read the funnies, then switched to nitrous for a while, but now I just look for your posts each day. Thanx for being you.

Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!

[This message has been edited by OldGrex (edited 01-19-99).]

posted 01-19-99 04:40 PM ET (US)     25 / 31       
I do not understand why people get so worked up about the NBA players making too much money.

Question 1: If I offered you $10 million to play basketball for six months per year, would you reject it because it is too much? if I offered you $10 million to do whatever you are best at, would you reject it?

Question 2: If there were a good chance that your boss would give you a huge raise, would you ask for it? if you thought you deserved a raise, and you asked for it, and your boss gave it to you, would you be wrong?

Question 3: If there were a company that made millions of dollars and had about 8-12 really crucial employees, without whom the company would basically cease to sell any product at all, don't you think those 8-12 people deserve a major share of the company's revenues?

Question 4: If people pay hundreds of dollars to see the Chicago Bulls play basketball and if NBC pays millions to broadcast Bulls games, who deserves the money more, the owner of the Bulls or the players (in particular, Michael Jordan).

My thought on this is that people don't like the fact the players get a ton of money for playing a sport when they have to work their tails off formuch less at jobs that are not fun. But I really do not think many people would turn down that money if it were offered to them, would refrain from asking for it if they thought the answer would be yes, or would feel like it was unfair if they did all of the most valued work and also got about half of the revenues.

If you really want basketball players to earn less money, refuse to attend games, refuse to watch games on TV, call up the sponsors of the NBA and tell them you will not buy their products, etc. Because as long as most NBA games sell out, and as long as television s willing to pay for games 9which in turn means as long as sponsors are willing to pay to advertise on games), the NBA will bring in tons of money. And if the NBA brings in X million per year, the players are going to get about half of that.

Personally, I think they deserve more. I cannot see how the value added by the owners and the league merits more than about 40% of the take. If you exclude the cost of players and you cannot make a huge profit on 40% of the NBA's revenues for all other expenses (coaches, cheerleaders, towel boy, road trips, whatever else), you need a new accountant.


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