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darius_the_mede
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posted 09-25-00 08:14 PM ET (US)         
My favorite civ now, has to be shang/persia(wedsaz you were right). My bronze time has always been horrible, 20, 21, 19 around there. So I finnally read all the strat articles I could find on fast bronzing. So I tried all of em and sort of came up with my own twist. And it worked, boy did it ever, my best broze time was 18:40, now its 12:40!~ what a jump. Boy never doubt what an expert tells you, I wasn't shore fishing, I NEVER hunted, I always berryed and then farmed. Boy was I wrong, now I don't farm, if at all, until late Iron, witch the game is usally over by then. I'm either shore fishing, hunting or berrying. Boy does it ever make a difference, and I play at 1.0 speed ONLY. Even at that speed I still am runing around like crazy with things to do. Like I think it was CD who said in his article on 1.0 speed, "if your ever sitting around watching your peons work, your doing something wrong". And he's RIGHT. And with Persia, I bronzed at 12:00! flat! That hunting bonus really helps! There bronze millitary is crap though. But Iron's not too bad. I still perfer Shang though because there Iron sucks ass, but I don't like Iron games anywho, thier bronze is one of the best. Even with Yammy, I bronzed a full 1:20 secconds later then Shang. Unless I want to do a cav rush on some IRon civ, I go with Shang. I know someone probably has better times then I do, but this is a breakthrough for me. My ways may not be the best for experts, but there good for rookies trying to improv. OK here's what I do, 1.0 speed ALWAYS. OH and learn all The HOTKEYS! BIG time saver. INcluding build hotkeys.

First off, build two houses with two peons, que 4 peons at TC send third to to build granery by some berries,(asuming its reveal), then after the first house is built send the second peon building house to berry pit. Then 1st peon should pop out, chop trees near TC and same with peon building house once he's finished. Then next 2 peons out should goto berry pit, last one goes to wood around TC(you don't have a wood pit yet) then as soon as your food hits 40/50 hit that peon button. your going with 4 peons on berry always, no more, no less(at least until you get to late bronze).*Note* While this is going on you should be looking for a good place to wood pit. Near some stone/gold or/and some gazzelle is ideal. then you should have about 4/5 villes on wood by the time you get 120 for a pit. Once you do only send 2 of your woodies to build your pre-selected wood spot. Then let the others keep chopping wood. Once the pits built put the rest on on wood)except your 4 berry pickers of course). You should be needing a house soon, so as soon as you get 30 wood build another house. Throughout this keep building peons. Next after the house your going to be aim for a 100 wood for a dock, after finding a good wood spot you next need to look for a good dock spot *same those shore fish for your villies!* Before yhe dock though, you'll want to find some shore fish close to the TC, if not then put your next 4 peons hunting/shore fishing. To sumerize you should have 4 berry pickers, 4 hunter/shore fishers and 8 woodies. AFter your dock is built, and you have 120 wood, you can pit somewhere for some shore fish. then your gonna want 2 more villes for hunting/shore fishing. And as you get the wood build 4 Fishing boats. By now you should have near 500 food. When you hit that tool button, you should have 18-20 villes, not including boats. While your tooling, make sure to build your barracks. Then if you've got a good shore fish spot and 4-5 villes hunting, 4-5 boats, and those 4 berry pickers, by the time you tool(witch should be around 9-10 min.), you should have around 600-650 food. the ONLY thing you wanna research during tool is toolworking at a storage pit. Make sure you have enough wood for a market and a stable/archer range in order to bronze. Once you get 800 hit the bronze button. WHILE your bronzing switch 2-3 villes over to gold/stone. then while your bronzing you can upgrade woodworking gold/stone mining (and if your planing on making cavs to harrass some ememy villies, leather armor cavelry too). Now your all set! You should bronze by 13-14 minutes. Whew, these long posts are killing me. Open for suggestions. When I play after I bronze I usally get 4-5 cavs in by 15-16 minutes. And i just keep making em and sending em in until I get about 6-7 then I quit and build some ST's and a few slingers with some chariots usally. then I concentrate a little on my navy, 4-5 war galleys usally do it. ok Post your suggestions/feed back plz!!!!


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wedsaz
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posted 09-25-00 11:59 PM ET (US)     1 / 47       
darius:
Ok first off I'd like to mention what civ you play usually makes a big difference in bronze time. Shang, assy/yammy, roman, minoan, phoenie, palmy and persian are the fast civs, pretty much in order of ease of use. In order of speed (fastest I've seen, in post-patch RoR): persian, shang, minoan, assy/yammy, palmy, roman, and phoenie.
 
Next I'd like to bore you with some numbers I got off of MrFixit's excellent AoE stats site. Normal berry picking and hunting rate is 0.45f/sec, normal shore fishing rate is 0.60f/sec, palmy berry picking rate is 0.65, persian hunting rate is 0.75f/sec, and palmy shore fishing rate is 0.80f/sec. Notice persian's +30% hunting is really +0.30, and palmy's +20% work rate is really +0.20? Also persian's -30% farming rate from AoE doesn't apply in RoR.
 
Persian's bronze military isn't as bad as people say. They have both cavalry and camels will full upgrades, war galleys (without artisanship), and compies. That's the same as minoan, but without hoplites, -1 war galley range and -3 compie range (considering minoan's +2 compie range bonus). The range lacking of their compies doesn't make much difference unless fighting other compies, in which case you could mix in slingers or STs to even things out. Lacking artisanship is a bigger problem on the sea, but usually you could have war galleys a good 2-3 minutes before any other civ which is a big advantage, and once the sea is yours it's easier to keep. So all in all, persian is about hitting when the opponent cannot defend, rather than struggling with their defenses. That means 2-3 clubbers w/armor in tool (for a total of *gasp* 175-225f), 2-3 cavs and a scout in early bronze, camels+ST or camels+slingers in mid-bronze, defensive compies+camels+slingers in late bronze, and use your extra-wide tech tree in iron.

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darius_the_mede
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posted 09-26-00 01:17 AM ET (US)     2 / 47       
Exactly, with Persia I can bronze at an excelt time, and be able to put up defense, with shang I get more villies and I have to strike first or strugle with my defenses. Also with camels, I can survive a yammy/shang cav rush. since persia has the best bronze time I've seen, you don't have to worry about a tool rush too much, except for walling. With shang though I like the variety, of a devistating tool rush, I can pull of a decent cav/camel/chariot rush, and with CA to back it up. Roman a fast civ? I find that hard to believe. For fast civ's I usally only think of the fast four: shang, assy, yammy, and phoenie. And now persia. I've got my fast bronze down pretty good. Now i need to work on my bronze millitary/econ management. Last game I played I didn't get any millitary until around 20-21 because of lack of econ. Persia is VEry underestamated and heres why- In order yo beat another civ, you need to fight them at the right time-frame that your civ excels in. Example, if your playing Persia against shang, your not gonna wanna fight a tool/bronze game, because shang can counter anything in bronze, Persia excels in iron, so you need to force your opponent into an Iron game. With persia's fast bronze that makes this possible, you can get to Iron before any other civ. then you have to upper hand. Don't go to the enemy, make him come to you. now if it were the other way around if your shang against persia, your gonna wanna break his fast Iron and make him fight bronze, break up his econ best you can in tool, maybe a rush is in order, or whatever. You need yo put your enemy where you want him. Most people have problems with persia, because they feel they need the upper hand at all times, so they feel tool and bronze strength is key, when it is not. How the hell is palmy a fast civ? 75 food for a villie? how do you compensate for that? I've never tried them, maybe i should. I'll give it a try tommorrow, but please wedsaz explain further.

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darius_the_mede
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posted 09-26-00 01:19 AM ET (US)     3 / 47       
Well no kidding what civ you have changes your bronze time, what do you think I am stupid?

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wedsaz
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posted 09-26-00 02:03 AM ET (US)     4 / 47       
darius:
I wanted to emphasize how important civ is mostly for rookies who may be reading this, since maybe not all of them know shang can fastbronze in 12 mins to hittite's 16. Yammy and assy ("yassy") can usually fastbronze in about 14 mins.
 
Phoenie is now probably the slowest of the civs I mentioned, since their woodcutting advantage was reduced from about +56% in AoE to about +36% in RoR and now about +9% in post-patch RoR. Roman gets 15% cheaper buildings, just think of all the wood you spend on houses, granaries, wood pits, docks, military buildings... it does add up, and with the 15% savings, rome seems to be about as fast to bronze as yassy. Minoan is about as fast as yassy also, although with my fastboom strat (risky in RoR) they can arrive in bronze as fast as shang and with twice the econ.
 
While palmy's 75f villies seems like a big disadvantage, they pick berries (and hunt) about 44.444% faster and cut wood about 35.714% faster (about +26.315% after woodworking and about +20.833% after artisanship), and since we all know extra villies end up paying for themselves, an extra villie on berries seems to me like a small price to pay for that extra (very approximately) 40% gathering rate. With palmy, I used to tool in 7 mins w/12 villies (=16) and bronze in 14 mins w/16 villies (=22), the early tool was because everyone assumed palmy was defenseless against tool rushes, and I felt walling extra early was a good precaution. If you made an extra 4 villies or so you would tool later but could probably bronze around shang's 12 mins with a superior economy and still a faster tool than my minoan fastboom.
 
Persia excels in early tool, early bronze and early iron when their enemies are still in the previous age, but don't spend too much or they'll catch up. Also as you mentioned their iron is quite decent,
 
There's a secret to still having a powerful econ with persian after other civs get the artisanship... you can bronze 2-3 minutes before they are, so why not pop up a govt center and cover the map with TCs+villies? Who cares if their woodies can chop down forests 20% faster, when you have twice as many woodies?

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HonoredMule
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posted 09-26-00 08:12 AM ET (US)     5 / 47       
Covering the map with TC's and villies is always a nice thing if you can do it...suddenly your base can relocate and start rebuilding somewhere else instantly...makes you very hard to kill. But then against someone else trying to do the same thing, it makes a VERY stressful game...it's like civil war with now boundaries.

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darius_the_mede
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posted 09-26-00 10:57 AM ET (US)     6 / 47       
That's true I forgot to mention that, they don't neccesarily excel in early Tool/Bronze/Iron, Its just getting there first and having supiorior Units. But not always, a Shang bronze can beat a Persia Iron Army anyday, if you know what your doing. With a decent army of bornze compies w/upgrades, backed by a few preists, you can take out persia's ele's and cavs, What you need to remeber is that Persia will be in Early iron while your in mid-late bronze. So you can get that army of compies, priests, and cavs/camels at him during early Iron, he's beat. Because the only Iron unit persia has that doesn't need to be uprgraded is the horse archer, witch the compies/cavs can take out easily, and if he can make ANY ele's because of the rush to Iron he probablt won't have much food to make very many, your preists can take care of em along with the compies. So acually, A LOT depends on what civ YOuR fighting too. So maybe an early/mid bronze attack on shang by persia would be best. It all depends on unset variables. That's why you need to constantly adjust, adjust, adjust your strat. I didn't know that about Rome, less cost for building, I knew about the towers though. I'm gonna do some testing and see how well I like Rome and Palmy, and I'll be posting about it.

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HonoredMule
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posted 09-26-00 12:33 PM ET (US)     7 / 47       
Rome is great for bombing TCs all over the map as soon as you got gov. center...with their price dropped by 15%, your econ won't even miss a beat.

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wedsaz
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posted 09-26-00 01:46 PM ET (US)     8 / 47       
HonoredMule:
Persian, being in bronze 2-3 mins earlier, gets a head start on TC booming. By the time another civ gets to bronze, persian can have 10 TCs and an extra 30-40 villies gathering.
 
darius:
Shang bronze compies+priests vs your persian? Counter with either a few cats (w/eng) or a bunch of lswords/legions (3rd best after cho and rome), both of which you should be able to easily afford.
 
Persian probably can't iron before 16 mins without a tribber, the best I've done with them is 18 mins iron. Shang starts gaining bronze dominance over persian around 14:30 when they get their first compies out (CAs will be easily countered by persian compies). That means, then, that they have from 14:30 to 18:00 to defeat persian. With some skill, you can delay their compies using cats and slingers along with your own compies, until you can iron.
 
So to sum it up, the biggest problem with persian is that people don't know how to play it.
 
HonoredMule:
Hmm, looking at my responses concering persian, you might like them... Playing persian involves countering with many parts of their huge tech tree, mixing units, and a strong iron so you can win in the end while being fast enough to defend. Sounds exactly like what you claim to enjoy.

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HonoredMule
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posted 09-26-00 03:05 PM ET (US)     9 / 47       
Actually, persia is one of my fav. civs. I would say I don't use them much online, excpet that I don't play online much anymore at all.

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darius_the_mede
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posted 09-26-00 10:33 PM ET (US)     10 / 47       
I did some testing with palmy today, and found another fav civ! Boy your never wrong wedsaz. i did 3 tests all were on large coastal, default res, age, 4 players (including me) 3 comps 1 ally:
Test #1- 14:30 bronze *no Iron*
Bad start, had to travel across map to dock and shore fish. Little hunting available, a few berry patchs, 2 were hill berries*akk!*. Tooled with 14 villies. Lack of wood caused no cavs in enemy towns until 22-24 min.
Test #2- 14:10 *no Iron*
Good start, lots of shore fish, some right by first wood pit, helped a lot. Tooled with 14 villies. Bronze time didn't change much. *Note* Slow bronze time probably came because I docked in tool, but couldn't make Boats until early bronze because of lack of wood. Bad bronze time in Test #1 came because I had to pump out boats to compensate for bad food supply. So less wood/slower bronze time. Also why I didn't get cavs in until 22-24. Got cavs in enemy towns by 18 min in test #2.
Test #3- 13:30! *Iron 25:00*
Had excellent start! 4 shore fish by TC, 3 by first wood pit along with big herd of gazelle. Had to travel across map and dock in enemy territory though. But none the less I got 3 boats before mid tool, so that was good. And 4 open berry patches to top it off. I think I had a decent Iron considering I wasn't planning on Ironing, and I had 2 6-7 cav rush going in 2 towns. *funny note* One comp was greek and at the end of the game it was still in STONE!!! I don't know if my ally did a tool rush or not, it didn't look like it. Now I know greek sucks ass, but STONE! Come on! even dead newbies can make it farther then that.

Overall, I'm starting to like Palmy, alot. Awesome villies killer bornze army, and a decent bronze time. Weird two out of three civs I swore I'd never like, persia/palmy out of persia/palmy/mace, I've started to like!

Wedsaz:
Ok, here's how I see it. Persia against shang. If your persia your only hope is to tool rush, or force mid/late Iron war. If your shang stop tool rush, don't Iron, save 1000 food, 800 gold for compie/slinger, preist, cav army and attack persia in their early Iron. Because your only hope to win with persia is a race to Iron and superior units, if shang attack with late bronze army on early persia trying to throw up an army, you've got a very good chance. If your persia, mine stone and gold and get defense up during the ages. Try and build some broadies in bronze and upgrade to long swordsmen/legions in Iron, like you said, wedsaz. then get FOOD/Gold like crazy for some ele's for a devestating army.


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wedsaz
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posted 09-27-00 02:14 AM ET (US)     11 / 47       
darius:
LoL, I've been wrong plenty. I'm also a poor player, the only way I win is by analyzing like mad, so I can have strong mathematical probability on my side. (see sun tzu quote)
 
I find it's usually best to take the first food you see with palmy... even if it's hill berries. Their amazing gather rate helps, and you need the food *fast* to maintain uninterrupted villie production.
 
LoL, the computer opponents are downright silly. Phill was working on improving them, I hear he got very good results. Maybe the computer opponents can even be made (nearly) as challenging as human players!
 
Hehe, want to know mace's dirty little secrets? There's another powerful and underused civ. In fact, part of the strength of civs like persian, palmy, mace and yes even choson and carth is that people don't know how to counter them if played well, because experts know those civs are useless, therefore they're only played in random civs (with no plan or prior knowledge of that civ's attributes) and by rookies who get their granaries and wood pits mixed up.
 
Persia's greatest strength in RM is their awesome speed, even the mighty shang can't keep up with a persian expert in age-stepping speed. The problem is that if you make a large military, you lose that speed, and persia doesn't have a strong military versus equal technology. So you should make a small, fast and cheap strike in early tool, early bronze, and early iron. Then you get into persia's varied and powerful iron military, where you can afford to make a large army because your bonuses and tech tree can compete even with iron superpowers like hittite and choson. What shang should do vs persian, then, is force them to spend large amounts of resources. I'm of the opinion that minoan is in fact a better counter to persian, because on the sea there's no counter-units, only economy and speed count. Persian has the speed edge, but if minoan goes heavy on navy, they can push them right out. Then their fishing fleet can give them enough food to overwhelm persian with compies on land before iron.
 
One more thing about fighting vs persian: don't forget to finish your wall before 11 mins, or your woodies might get some free weight-loss training from the persian cavs. ( one two three four run run run, that's it guys, just a few more laps around the storage pit... )

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HonoredMule
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posted 09-27-00 06:52 AM ET (US)     12 / 47       
Yes, well, Palmy is my #1 favorite civ...I won't argue that they are the best, but I do my best with them, and am more familiar with them than any other. Their bonuses aren't exactly extreme, but they are the most balanced civ (I put a lot of stock in "balance") in the game. They are also the only civ with an econ balance that doesn't just mean you need more villies, or will have an even harder time chasing them down. I can't wait until they cost only 70f, or until their camels have a real bonus. I would still choose palmy over persia because palmy has a good chance to do damage or kill in tool and bronze, and isn't out of the game once late Iron comes.

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posted 09-27-00 07:21 AM ET (US)     13 / 47       
HonoredMule:
Play Palmy on a huge or gigantic map and say again that the fast camels aren't a real bonus. Apart from that the only thing wanting there is monotheism and perhaps polytheism so you can priest rush your enemies; that's my favorite way of rounding enemies up.
HonoredMule
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posted 09-27-00 08:47 AM ET (US)     14 / 47       
I never cared much for priests, even offline, except aginst elles and cats. (and pitting them aginst cats is much more dangerous than using say, Hcav. I usu. only concern myself with temple techs as they affect other units, or if the enemy is using an elle civ. However, palmy priests are pretty good for that too.

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darius_the_mede
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posted 09-27-00 09:30 AM ET (US)     15 / 47       
Well I guess if I can get Persia to work, I can do anything! Once I practice a little more on my strats and just plain ol game play, I'll give mace a shot. Wedsaz, why don't you ever play online?

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wedsaz
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posted 09-27-00 01:40 PM ET (US)     16 / 47       
peter:
If you compare the speed of training a camel at a forward base with running an army of even palmy camels across the map, you'll see palmy's camel speed is a worthless bonus. It has no military significance. That's why we're replacing it with +2 camels/cav/hcav damage, which would be an awesome villie-raiding and anti-archer bonus.
 
HonoredMule:
Palmy does lose the chariots in my EoR changes though, because they'd probably be even faster with 70f villies and I suspect their new military bonus would be very popular. In fact, babylon is the only civ left with a full tool and bronze. Most of the popular civs like hittite, phoenie and shang lose the camel, which would make cav rushing more worthwhile and those civs more vulnerable. That in turn would strengthen the bronze of non-camel civs like greek, yammy, etc.
 
darius:
Why don't I play online? One word: freaking moronic stupid annoying bloody firewall, damnit.
 
I consider mace to be a "team civ"... they are vulerable alone, but so powerful once they get their army going in bronze that they're worth protecting until then. Sort of like a wonder. Work very well with a bab rushing to tool and walling/towering like mad, until mace says three lovely little words: "open the wall". Within a few minutes the deathcries of thousands of shang, minoan, hittite, yammy, roman and other villies can be heard in the distance, along with crashing sounds from where their houses once stood, swearing of their rulers, and screaming from whichever ones are attempting to escape their fate. Ahh, I love the smell of alchemy'd cat stones in the morning.

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posted 09-27-00 02:08 PM ET (US)     17 / 47       
wedsaz:
IF you forward build, okay. But if you have five enemies on a gigantic map, are you going to build 5 stables in the enemies' backyard?
wedsaz
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posted 09-27-00 02:34 PM ET (US)     18 / 47       
peter:
First let's mention that in a real game I wouldn't have 5 opponents to start with. 3v3, 4v4, 2v4, 1v3... but not 1v5. Now, that aside, yes I would still forward build. The stronger units (compies, siege, elles) are slow ones, so you have to be defensive... and thus the way to attack with them is make a base inside or near the enemy base, which you then defend fiercely. Either that, or accept the long walking time.

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HonoredMule
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posted 09-27-00 02:39 PM ET (US)     19 / 47       
wedsaz, if I wanna use chariots I usu. use another chariot specific civ anyway. With palmy I go for camels and compies, take the sea, and then throw in melee and whatever I need to counter whan the opponent is doing.

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posted 09-27-00 03:06 PM ET (US)     20 / 47       
HonoredMule:
I don't use chariots much either, and I figure with camels like that (re: 8 dam like cavs) palmy would be powerful enough.

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posted 09-27-00 07:17 PM ET (US)     21 / 47       
Wedsaz:
Why don't you just close the firewall for the online game and switch it back on after its over? I doubt any hacker would be hovering over your IP that persistantly. Besides the odds are niel that as soon as you close it eveything's gonna go haywire.

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wedsaz
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posted 09-27-00 07:23 PM ET (US)     22 / 47       
darius:
If only it were so simple... the same software is what allows our windows computers to access the net. Being the network admin, I'd get lapidated if I turned it off long enough to play AoE online.

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HonoredMule
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posted 09-27-00 08:12 PM ET (US)     23 / 47       
luv the way you put that

trust me darius, I've hashed this out with wedsaz a couple of times...he's definately screwed.


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posted 09-27-00 08:19 PM ET (US)     24 / 47       
HonoredMule:
Yup, at least until I can afford a separate connection (and some free time) just for AoE.

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posted 09-27-00 10:40 PM ET (US)     25 / 47       
I don't understand, network admin? How are you connecting to the internet? At home, from work? Explain.

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