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Topic Subject:Someone documented a lot of the alpha units and buildings back in the 90s [A trip into an ancient website]
anterior2
Scenario Design Expert
posted 10-09-15 08:48 AM ET (US)         
It looks like Phatfish wasn't the first person to try to catlogue all the unused beta units. I recently found this website which is basically a time capsule of the late '90s internet. The last piece of news posted on that site was on March 21, 2000. Also note further down on the page they talk about an AoE game coming to the then unreleased "X-Box".

Anyway, the reason why I am posting it is because it has several pages of unused alpha graphics (units, buildings, and technologies) along with descriptions of what they are. Some of them I haven't even seen before on Phatfish's website. The site also contains interviews with prominent people from the '90s AoE scene, including the creator of SLP Studio. Interestingly the site also mentions a bunch of other AoE fansites which no longer exist anymore (but I assume were popular back in the '90s). Oh, and AoEHeaven gets several mentions too (including a link to the old gamestats URL).


Here are some of the most interesting links:

Unused/alpha buildings with explanations: Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, Page 5

Unused/alpha units with explanations: Page 1, Page 2

Unused/alpha technology graphics with explanations: Page 1

Animations (presumably of unused/alpha assets): Page 1, Page 2 (page 2 is just a single gif).

Interviews with "Influential Agers": Creator of SLP Studio, List of all the interviews (the list page links to interviews of various internet-famous people from the AoE scene)

A page containing an dictionary of popular AoE-related terms from the time and a list of important people in the AoE scene. The list of important people includes our very own Archangel! Also, interestingly they mention an old fansite called MFO (Mr Fixit Online). I managed to track that website down to some forums that are still active as of 2015 but they are dedicated to some racing game now (called F-Zero) and no longer have any AoE-related content. I found a tumblr blog related to MFO which does mention their history with AoE though.


This page talks about ES's Sandyman mentioning another game that ES was working on which was not an RTS! The page also includes a reference to the Y2K bug.


The website also has a bunch of AoE2 related unused/alpha stuff so that might be worth checking out too!

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[This message has been edited by anterior2 (edited 10-09-2015 @ 08:57 AM).]

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flip3570
Clubman
posted 10-09-15 09:35 AM ET (US)     1 / 13       
Really nice! Really cool!
Highwing
Clubman
posted 10-09-15 01:00 PM ET (US)     2 / 13       
they are dedicated to some racing game now (called F-Zero)
Funny to see a futuristic racing series made by Nintendo mentioned on here. I love the F-Zero games.

[This message has been edited by Highwing (edited 10-09-2015 @ 01:17 PM).]

Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 10-11-15 07:31 AM ET (US)     3 / 13       
Nice links.

Like I told Phatfish before, I wonder why they discarded some designs. They looked better than the released version ones.

Thanks for sharing.

[This message has been edited by Suppiluliuma (edited 10-11-2015 @ 07:33 AM).]

PhatFish
Mr. Beta
posted 10-11-15 09:00 AM ET (US)     4 / 13       
Actually it was Archangel who first posted unreleased stuff. And all of these were hosted on my site, you probably missed them. They are on AoEH now too.



Roman2211
Clubman
posted 10-12-15 06:47 AM ET (US)     5 / 13       
PhatFish, you are not interested in AoE3 alpha?
PhatFish
Mr. Beta
posted 10-12-15 07:50 AM ET (US)     6 / 13       
Yes I am. But I am not as fond of AoE3 as the other age games.



flip3570
Clubman
posted 10-15-15 10:08 AM ET (US)     7 / 13       
how long did it actually took the creators to make AoE 1 ?
PhatFish
Mr. Beta
posted 10-17-15 08:32 AM ET (US)     8 / 13       
From idea to final product, roughly two years.



flip3570
Clubman
posted 10-17-15 11:31 AM ET (US)     9 / 13       
I think AoE 1 has one of the most amezing gamestructures ever, the demo has got levels that are MADE to let you see what the hole game can offer, while the actual games hasn't got the levels but has got a very big campaign that shows you the hole game. It's just ;o
anterior2
Scenario Design Expert
posted 10-19-15 09:50 AM ET (US)     10 / 13       
They are on AoEH now too.
Even the gifs?
Actually it was Archangel who first posted unreleased stuff.
Where did he get them from?

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[This message has been edited by anterior2 (edited 10-19-2015 @ 09:51 AM).]

PhatFish
Mr. Beta
posted 10-20-15 08:15 AM ET (US)     11 / 13       
Those animations are from AoK.

Archangel was sort of a webmaster for Ensemble Studios (not ensemblestudios.com) and as such received inside info including early graphics. Look it up in the wayback machine if you like.



anterior2
Scenario Design Expert
posted 10-23-15 03:09 AM ET (US)     12 / 13       
Yeah, I've explored the history of HeavenGames before over at OD.

The thing is that I thought Archangel went to ES after he left HeavenGames, not during his time here.

StormComing (to me): "Seems like you're way under-ranked"

Check out my series of guides for the scenario editor in the link below! | Best Otto TR score

The definitive collection of my scenarios, along with my scenario editor walkthrough, recorded games, and much much more!

[This message has been edited by anterior2 (edited 10-23-2015 @ 03:09 AM).]

anterior2
Scenario Design Expert
posted 11-13-15 02:53 AM ET (US)     13 / 13       
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