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Topic Subject:Newly Discovered Attack Bonus
jordanthejq12
Clubman
posted 07-04-09 07:24 PM ET (US)         
I just found, while playing a campaign, that towers appear to have a one or two point attack bonus vs. chariot archers. I ran some tests, and I found this:

TEST BACKGROUND
Type: Attack Modifier
Attacker: Tower
Defender: Chariot Archer
Civs: Both Carthaginian
Theory: Towers +2 vs. chariot archers

TEST 1
Dark Age, Watch Tower v. CA
Damage Dealt/Theoretical Damage: 3/5
Conclusion: No attack bonus here.

TEST 2
Same, except in Tool Age
DD/TD: 3/5
Conclusion: Not yet...

TEST 3
Bronze Age, Sentry Tower
DD/TD: 4/6
Conclusion: Aaargh! Not yet!

TEST 4
Iron Age, Guard Tower
DD/ TD: 6/8
Conclusion: Nope. No attack bonus here.

TEST 5
Post-Iron Age, Ballista Tower
DD/TD: 21/22
Conclusion: Ballista Towers +1 vs. chariot archers.

TEST 6
True-To-Game Circumstance
Palmyran CA vs. Roman Sentry Tower
CA in Bronze Age, Sentry Post-Iron
DD/TD: 4/6
Conclusion: Glitch.

OVERALL CONCLUSION: Sometimes, a glitch can give a unit one or two points extra damage than intended.

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Gumble
Clubman
posted 07-04-09 08:18 PM ET (US)     1 / 8       
Methinks it would be the effect of the charieots armour that influences this result, ie the towers to 5.5 damage or something and only registers this result every two attacks.

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jordanthejq12
Clubman
posted 07-04-09 09:19 PM ET (US)     2 / 8       
Huh? Half-point modifiers? That would explain a lot of things...
I'll run more tests tomorrow. Actually, I have AGE(Advanced Genie Editor), compatible with any game running the genie game engine(this game, Age of Kings, and Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds, all of which have a Heaven), which allows me to check attack bonuses...
Stand by...
Nah, I'll check tomorrow.

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MrCheeze
Clubman
posted 07-05-09 10:23 AM ET (US)     3 / 8       
Huh? Where did you get that?

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Fisk
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posted 07-05-09 01:12 PM ET (US)     4 / 8       
Is it possible that the towers stood on an elevation in that scenario? Any missile units attacking from elevations get an attack bonus.

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Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 07-06-09 04:25 PM ET (US)     5 / 8       
I agree with fruktfisk, you must test that in flat terrain. Now if you already did that...then that's not the reason for the bonus.
irwinner
Clubman
posted 07-08-09 05:41 PM ET (US)     6 / 8       
...I don't understand

CA vs Towers - not recommended

How this was noticed (I mean, when my units start taking hits I run or attack, not count the hp)

Elevation bonus (as already mentioned)


On the half attack points/armor argument, and im not trying to say you are wrong, but doesnt the game state +2,+4 or whatever for techs, and all units starting attack/armor are whole numbers...

Sorry, i just dont understand
Max_CRAZY
Clubman
posted 07-08-09 10:04 PM ET (US)     7 / 8       
there is no bug about tower attack.

the + 1 attack u got in iron age from ballista is probably beacuse Alchemy was researched.

If Tower is on hill it will get a +33% of attack bonus.
Suppiluliuma
AoEH Seraph
posted 07-13-09 10:01 AM ET (US)     8 / 8       
Well the alchemy solves it, but then why only the chariots were affected? Has jordanthejq12, tried with other units?
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