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Topic Subject:Lorenzo - guillermo123321
Dean McCullough
Clubman
posted 06-19-07 05:47 PM ET (US)         
This fellow has taken a handful of old scenarios at the back of the AoEH granary, stamped his name on it, and submitted it in as his own... Seeing that you've done nothing yet (perhaps you haven't noticed) I'd suggest you do, as from what I see he's done 5 or 6 so far.

This can be witnessed simply on the new downloads bar, so I'm not going to post links...
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The Dark Archer
HG Alumnus
posted 06-19-07 06:22 PM ET (US)     1 / 19       
Are they in the granary? I thought they where just scenarios from another site that he was uploading. But yes he will need to give credit to the designers.

The Dark Archer

"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein
"I once met a girl who looked like a camel" - Rasteve
Death of the Morads | AoEH Design Series II | Out From the Cliffs
Dean McCullough
Clubman
posted 06-19-07 06:29 PM ET (US)     2 / 19       
TDA-He completely took everything off these scenarios, completely. His uploaded summit looks EXACTLY like the old one. And the same for others, with minor changes occasionaly.
The Dark Archer
HG Alumnus
posted 06-19-07 06:37 PM ET (US)     3 / 19       
So are they in the granary? I know there is another site that we have been pointed to that have the scenario/campaigns but are they in the granary? That is what I want to know. I'm not saying that he shouldn't be crediting designers (If he uploaded my stuff somewhere and claimed it as his I'd be annoyed). What I am saying is that I am unsure if they are in the granary or not. If they are they should just be left to rest by removing the new ones.

The Dark Archer

"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein
"I once met a girl who looked like a camel" - Rasteve
Death of the Morads | AoEH Design Series II | Out From the Cliffs
The Dark Archer
HG Alumnus
posted 06-19-07 06:43 PM ET (US)     4 / 19       
Alright this looks like it might take a bit of work. Some scenarios are copies of ones in the granary but some are ones from another site. If we weed the ones that are in the granary out and warn him about giving credit to the designers we should be alright. He seems to be someone that listens to suggestions as he does now post in English.

The Dark Archer

"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein
"I once met a girl who looked like a camel" - Rasteve
Death of the Morads | AoEH Design Series II | Out From the Cliffs
G1ggy
Clubman
posted 06-19-07 07:42 PM ET (US)     5 / 19       
Links, proof?
Dean McCullough
Clubman
posted 06-19-07 07:50 PM ET (US)     6 / 19       
Just search the names of the files he's uploaded.

For example, the original "The Summit" can be found here.

His files should be removed completely if they're already in the granary, as well as I think Lorenzo should take some action against him... He obviously doesn't plan on stopping too soon.

If they are from different sites, he needs to cite them.

[This message has been edited by Dean McCullough (edited 06-19-2007 @ 07:52 PM).]

The Dark Archer
HG Alumnus
posted 06-19-07 10:00 PM ET (US)     7 / 19       
Yes I agree.

What needs to happen is that all of his files need to be searched then the ones that are already in the granary will need to be made into a list to be removed and finally Doc can give him a warning about copying others work.

I personally believe he only needs a warning because when in the past he was posting in another language all I needed to do was point out that it was against the rules and suggest that he stop and he did.

Edit:

After searching the Granary I've found some of his uploads that we may already have. I'll take a look at them and report back about them.

The Dark Archer

"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein
"I once met a girl who looked like a camel" - Rasteve
Death of the Morads | AoEH Design Series II | Out From the Cliffs

[This message has been edited by The Dark Archer (edited 06-19-2007 @ 11:14 PM).]

G1ggy
Clubman
posted 06-20-07 01:05 AM ET (US)     8 / 19       
Not all of them are already in the Granary, some are just copied from the Artho AoE site mentioned by Nezon on his file pages.
Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 06-20-07 06:29 AM ET (US)     9 / 19       
Damn - this is my fault, sorry everyone. I'll sort this in the next few days as soon as I can figure everything out. Thanks Dean.

Needless to say, guillermo123321 will have *all* files rejected from the Granary until this is sorted out.

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
The Dark Archer
HG Alumnus
posted 06-20-07 06:51 AM ET (US)     10 / 19       
Damn - this is my fault, sorry everyone.
I wouldn't say that at all Doc. How where you to know he had got them from another site? Or that they were already in the Granary? Because I can truly say I didn't. What needs to happen now is that the suspect scenarios need to be looked at and then decided if they are already in the granary or not and if they are from another site without credit. And I'm sure there are people here willing to help. I will be tomorrow after I hand in my English assignment.

The Dark Archer

"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein
"I once met a girl who looked like a camel" - Rasteve
Death of the Morads | AoEH Design Series II | Out From the Cliffs
peter
HG Alumnus
posted 06-20-07 07:11 AM ET (US)     11 / 19       
Last time I counted them, there were over 1600 files in the downloads section. I didn't play all of them, and don't know all of them. I did wade through all description files though. Kudos for the people who spotted it, but Lorry isn't to blame for not noticing it.
The Dark Archer
HG Alumnus
posted 06-20-07 07:15 AM ET (US)     12 / 19       
Exactly. And he is under a lot of pressure right now as he is really the only person that can really deal with the granary right now due to Centy's unfortunate situation and Blitz isn't really a designer or Granary user.

And I don't know all the files that are in there ether even though at one time a had an up-to-date record of all the reviews most sections had.

The Dark Archer

"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein
"I once met a girl who looked like a camel" - Rasteve
Death of the Morads | AoEH Design Series II | Out From the Cliffs
peter
HG Alumnus
posted 06-20-07 07:22 AM ET (US)     13 / 19       
The reviews by Spineman are a must read - I'm damned if I know where he found the time to manage the site, play those scenarios and campaigns and write reviews for them - and damn well written ones, too. I counted them when I converted the old ones to the present database format. Since then quite a few were added, not bad at all.
Nikokol
Clubman
posted 06-20-07 02:35 PM ET (US)     14 / 19       
You should remove 3-4 scenarios - the others are his work.

Tribulation Designs
I wish my English was better ...
The Dark Archer
HG Alumnus
posted 06-20-07 03:50 PM ET (US)     15 / 19       
The ones that were not in the granary to begin with a alright as long as he credit them to their makers if he didn't make them himself.

The Dark Archer

"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein
"I once met a girl who looked like a camel" - Rasteve
Death of the Morads | AoEH Design Series II | Out From the Cliffs
Max_CRAZY
Clubman
posted 06-20-07 04:31 PM ET (US)     16 / 19       
looks like this guy is from my country... problem is: looks like he doestn speak any english, so he probably doesnt know he doing something wrong... he wouldnt even know how to credit someone... i suggest remove the ones that are there already and credit the left ones.
Dean McCullough
Clubman
posted 06-20-07 04:36 PM ET (US)     17 / 19       
Could you tell him how to then?
The Dark Archer
HG Alumnus
posted 06-21-07 04:06 AM ET (US)     18 / 19       
Yes if you could help translate for us Max it'd be a great help. And in my search on the scenarios I believe there is only two that he has uploaded that are already in the Granary and I shall get in contact with Doc about which ones.

The Dark Archer

"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein
"I once met a girl who looked like a camel" - Rasteve
Death of the Morads | AoEH Design Series II | Out From the Cliffs
Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 06-21-07 04:22 AM ET (US)     19 / 19       
Thanks a *lot* to Darkie for finding me the doubles, and again to Dean for spotting this. I've contacted guillermo123321 so hopefully we'll get an answer - thats if he does speak English.

As for the Granary, I'm working on it, but its a system only Pecunia seems to understand, so I'm waiting to chatch her on MSN

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
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