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Topic Subject:The Be All-End All Strategy Thread
Joecool1
Clubman
posted 10-16-03 00:28 AM ET (US)         
Directory of all stategies of Age of empires:Rise of Rome

There are three main types of strategies in AoE random map games, reguardless of map type or civilization-booming strats, rushing strats, and defensive strats. Beyond this, there are hundreds of possible variations, build orders, and so on.

Booming Strats
All "booming strats" involve building a strong economic base, sacrificing strong tool/bronze times for a dominant population, army, and Iron age time. Most civilizations can pull of a decent booming strat. A rough build order for a booming strat on a highland/coastal map would start with two houses, and would aim for totally focused food production, branching out into wood after the first ten or so villagers. Typically the player "hits the tool button" after producing between 20 and 30 villagers. An extreme boomer may even begin gold and stone mining in the Stone Age.

After hitting Feudal, a boomer will swtich to expansion mode, plopping down dozens of military buildings, granaries, and storage pits (multiple sp's allow for better researh speeds), and usually two markets. Military production will usually begin in this stage, and all military techs for the type of soldier the player plans on using will be researched. Typically, on the economic scene, the player will have around 30 villagers now, and will have switched to FU (fully upgraded) farms as their main food source by now. Scout cavalry, probably given at least some armor and attack for defense and villager harrasment, should be scouting the map at this point.

A very strong Bronze Age comes, and with it, if the player has boomed uninterupted, a massive economic base, and the means for producing FU military units very quickly due to large numbers of military buildings. Typically the game will be won within half an hour of the player hitting bronze.

On more water-oriented maps, the gameplay is much the same, but the player will probably have at least two docks, and should take advantage of fishing boats as a source of food, freeing up a larger number of villagers to focus on woodcutting, which becomes more important. If you play the game right, you'll have 6-8 triremes sailing about soon, destroying everything in their path due to strength in numbers (some players, depending on their civ, may choose to suplement with fire ships and catapult triremes. By all means, use your civ's strengths to your advantage).

*This section will be expanded in the near future, adding specific strategies, build orders, and so on.*

Rushing Strats
These strategies are hugely varied, and very common in expert games on the Microsoft Gaming Zone. Although they are wide-ranging in scope, they all involve quickly throwing up a skeleton economy, and aiming straight for the early production of one type of unit (scouts, axemen, archers, even villagers-this depends on your civ choice). The build orders for these strategies are the most rigid and least versitile of the lot, but if they are executed right they are absolutely lethal. For detailed information on a Scout Rush and a Slinger Rush, see the articles on the Seige Workshop section of this site. The rest I will cover here, one by one

Archer Rush
*Under Cosntruction*

Villager Rush
*Under Construction*


Nuts on curfews! I'll finish this up tomorrow.


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Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 10-16-03 01:33 AM ET (US)     1 / 20       
This thread is a bit pointless, seeing is there is a great strategy section here at AoEH.

EDIT: Up the villager rush!


DR LORENZO
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[This message has been edited by Dr Lorenzo (edited 10-16-2003 @ 01:34 AM).]

wedsaz
Clubman
posted 10-16-03 04:58 AM ET (US)     2 / 20       

Quote:

After hitting Feudal, a boomer will swtich to expansion mode


 
That might take a while, if you're playing AoE1 or RoR...

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peter
HG Alumnus
posted 10-16-03 05:21 AM ET (US)     3 / 20       
Yes, maybe you should post this in the AoK forums.
And we do have a strategy section. You can submit articles and we'll upload them - if they are about AoE or RoR proper.
Adamant Hoplite
Clubman
posted 10-16-03 11:09 AM ET (US)     4 / 20       

Quote:

After hitting Feudal, a boomer will swtich to expansion mode

It's Tool you are referring to.

Well... I must say, there are loads of strategies in the Strategy Section, although we certainly could do with a Boom/Rush build order, seeing there aren't that many of these around.


_,~`Adamant Hoplite`~,_ - The Imaginary and Fantastical Hellenic Sovereign King
380 Health, 52 Attack, 30 Hack Armour, 12 Pierce Armour, Very Fast Speed, Inconvertible, etc, etc, etc.
"The people of Hellas shall rise - Hellenes, sharpen your Kopis, raise your Dory, wield your proud Hoplon in gleaming sunlight - time has inevitably arrived to cast down the corrupted Imperials."
AoEH | Zeus Heaven | MEO | Hoplites | The Allerian Empire
Queen hatsepsut
Clubman
posted 10-16-03 01:44 PM ET (US)     5 / 20       

Quoted from wedsaz:

That might take a while


That made me laugh

Her Majesty, Queen Hatshepsut
All hail Canada!
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GreatWizard
Clubman
posted 10-16-03 03:11 PM ET (US)     6 / 20       
I am getting much better feudal times since I altered my Age of Empires start from the suggested 2 house start to house-granary-house. I have now been able to determine the optimum moment to alt-tab out of AoE, install AoK, start that game, hit the gonkulator and meld the two games into one. I have my AoE villagers gather food while sending those female AoK villagers to my AoE opponents village. This always, and I mean always, confuses my opponent. I alt-tab out again, install and start EE and then I follow up the female villagers with some jet planes from EE. This all takes some time but as I say, I have gotten my feudal times down to only about 3 days.

I am a great and powerful wizard.


Pay no attention to the ManBehindTheCurtain.
peter
HG Alumnus
posted 10-16-03 03:49 PM ET (US)     7 / 20       
rofl. Ah, that was good.
Thank you, noble wizard.
LinkTheBrave
Clubman
posted 10-16-03 06:29 PM ET (US)     8 / 20       
Rotfl! However, you forgot the nukes from RoN.

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Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 10-17-03 01:44 AM ET (US)     9 / 20       
RoN, damn that game is good. However, the Scenario Editor sucks.

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
Joecool1
Clubman
posted 10-17-03 08:45 PM ET (US)     10 / 20       
Er.....Evidently since there's little interest, I wont finish. I guess the straegy section is pretty good, i just thought that expanding it and putting it in one easily accessed place would be good.

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Adamant Hoplite
Clubman
posted 10-18-03 06:14 AM ET (US)     11 / 20       
Argh... why does everyone miss out the colourful Hoplites and Triremes from Zeus?? And Zeus himself too!!

_,~`Adamant Hoplite`~,_ - The Imaginary and Fantastical Hellenic Sovereign King
380 Health, 52 Attack, 30 Hack Armour, 12 Pierce Armour, Very Fast Speed, Inconvertible, etc, etc, etc.
"The people of Hellas shall rise - Hellenes, sharpen your Kopis, raise your Dory, wield your proud Hoplon in gleaming sunlight - time has inevitably arrived to cast down the corrupted Imperials."
AoEH | Zeus Heaven | MEO | Hoplites | The Allerian Empire
GreatWizard
Clubman
posted 10-18-03 10:38 AM ET (US)     12 / 20       
Hey Joe-

Hey, just having a little fun. I do not mean to discourage you. A little rehashing of strategy is always a good thing. If you have the energy and the time go ahead and enjoy yourself.

I, and other I am sure, will be happy to comment and critique.

Of course, I always reserve the right to poke a little good natured fun.

And seriously, I do think that the house-granary-house start is superior to the house-house start as you get an earlier start gathering food.

I am a great and powerful wizard.


Pay no attention to the ManBehindTheCurtain.
Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 10-18-03 09:04 PM ET (US)     13 / 20       
Zeus is a very cool game. I like Aphrodite the best

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
SnakeEyes
Clubman
posted 10-19-03 00:38 AM ET (US)     14 / 20       
No, Aphrodite sucks, you should be able to keep your population, without resorting to brainwashing them

I think Athena or Ares are the best!!


`..`._.SnakeEyes..`._.
Resident Ferry-Master
.:Woad creations:Blackstorm Inventions:.
AoE is my game,
SnakeEyes is my name!!!

Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 10-19-03 02:43 AM ET (US)     15 / 20       
Aphrodie gets rid of four gods at a low cost. Athena is good too.

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
Adamant Hoplite
Clubman
posted 10-19-03 06:03 AM ET (US)     16 / 20       
Hades or Zeus is the best!!

_,~`Adamant Hoplite`~,_ - The Imaginary and Fantastical Hellenic Sovereign King
380 Health, 52 Attack, 30 Hack Armour, 12 Pierce Armour, Very Fast Speed, Inconvertible, etc, etc, etc.
"The people of Hellas shall rise - Hellenes, sharpen your Kopis, raise your Dory, wield your proud Hoplon in gleaming sunlight - time has inevitably arrived to cast down the corrupted Imperials."
AoEH | Zeus Heaven | MEO | Hoplites | The Allerian Empire
Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 10-20-03 02:50 AM ET (US)     17 / 20       
Zeus costs far too much for the little that he does

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
Queen hatsepsut
Clubman
posted 10-20-03 06:58 AM ET (US)     18 / 20       
Yeah, he costs a lot -- HE COSTS THE GAME!!! Hahaha... ha... ha?

Her Majesty, Queen Hatshepsut
All hail Canada!
AoEH |AoMH |8-bit Theatre
We love all of our friends up there in that barren, freezing, moose-infested wasteland. Really.
Courtesy of Joecool1

[This message has been edited by Queen Hatsepsut (edited 10-20-2003 @ 06:59 AM).]

Adamant Hoplite
Clubman
posted 10-20-03 10:55 AM ET (US)     19 / 20       
Agreed, Queenie.

*laughs maniacally together*


_,~`Adamant Hoplite`~,_ - The Imaginary and Fantastical Hellenic Sovereign King
380 Health, 52 Attack, 30 Hack Armour, 12 Pierce Armour, Very Fast Speed, Inconvertible, etc, etc, etc.
"The people of Hellas shall rise - Hellenes, sharpen your Kopis, raise your Dory, wield your proud Hoplon in gleaming sunlight - time has inevitably arrived to cast down the corrupted Imperials."
AoEH | Zeus Heaven | MEO | Hoplites | The Allerian Empire
Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 10-21-03 01:35 AM ET (US)     20 / 20       
Eh....sure. Good game

DR LORENZO
AoEH | Woad Creations Alumni
I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
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