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Topic Subject:Juggernauts or Triremes?
Dr Lorenzo
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posted 02-25-03 05:47 PM ET (US)         
I personally prefer Triremes. Faster fire rate, and better all round.

Opinions?


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Dangrimm
Clubman
posted 02-25-03 10:46 PM ET (US)     1 / 26       
yeah, triremes for naval combat, but juggernaughts are better against buildings and transports and slower unit
s. you cant really compare them, its like comparing cavalry to a catapult, they each have their purpose.
Dr Lorenzo
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posted 02-25-03 11:03 PM ET (US)     2 / 26       
Yes, but they are both ships, so they can be compared.

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Conquesticus
Clubman
posted 02-25-03 11:57 PM ET (US)     3 / 26       
i prefer triremes because it's just wood you're using up. you have to spend a lot of dough to get those suckers, but if you're facing a jugg user, sometimes you have to start using yourself. but bang for buck, i like triremes.

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Iron Hoplite
Clubman
posted 02-26-03 11:04 AM ET (US)     4 / 26       
I'll prefer Triremes over Juggernaughts, but exception if is Phoenician Juggernaughts...

Heck... who can beat a Mithril Colossus Hoplite like I am one now...?
Besides, Zeus agreed to help me, and Athena to love me...
Lytyr_Storm
Clubman
posted 02-26-03 03:39 PM ET (US)     5 / 26       
Yeah, I'd say Triremes too. Unless your enemy wasn't got a navy of any sort, of course. Juggernaughts are good against ships I find (damage-wise), but they're too expensive and are easy to take out.

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Dr Lorenzo
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posted 02-26-03 11:44 PM ET (US)     6 / 26       
Therefore Triremes are declared the master of the sea!

Phonecian Juggernauts? I suppose so.


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SnakeEyes
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posted 02-27-03 01:38 AM ET (US)     7 / 26       
Down the false ruler juggernaught! UP with the tyrant TRIREME!

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Dr Lorenzo
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posted 02-27-03 04:19 AM ET (US)     8 / 26       
SnakeEyes, you really are acting like this is an OT forum.

Not that I mind, I just don't think it will go unnoticed.


DR LORENZO
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I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
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We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
king_moron
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posted 02-28-03 03:51 AM ET (US)     9 / 26       

Quote:

Phonecian Juggernauts?

Persian Triremes have fire rate bonus too.

Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 02-28-03 04:42 AM ET (US)     10 / 26       
Thats what I usually use.

DR LORENZO
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I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
king_moron
Banned
posted 02-28-03 07:32 PM ET (US)     11 / 26       
Then again, they lack artisianship, craftmanship, (or is it engineering that increases trireme's range?) and ballistics.
Iron Hoplite
Clubman
posted 03-01-03 06:14 AM ET (US)     12 / 26       
I think Persians only lack Craftsmanship. Also, Engineering does not increase Trireme's range, since Tririmes are counted as missile units, not siege units.

The lack of ballistics is a pain... (imagine trying to hit a Heavy Horse Archer using a Persian Trireme... )


Heck... who can beat a Mithril Colossus Hoplite like I am one now...?
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Dark_Avenger
Clubman
posted 03-01-03 08:08 AM ET (US)     13 / 26       
Most of the time I use triremes in naval battles, but if I can see some buildings to destroy, I use trireme cat/Juggyz...For me, I prefer their role to besiege cityz instead to making naval battles. I don't use Fire Galleyz.

Who use Fire Galleyz when they played a Civ with Fire Galley?


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Dr Lorenzo
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posted 03-01-03 07:49 PM ET (US)     14 / 26       
Ive never really liked Naval Battles.

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I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
generaljohn
Clubman
posted 03-02-03 07:37 PM ET (US)     15 / 26       
Juggernauts are my favorite for knocking down the front line.However the Triremes can knock them out in a Naval combat
Dangrimm
Clubman
posted 03-03-03 00:14 AM ET (US)     16 / 26       
Both of them can be used effectively-
1. Use triremes and a couple jugs to attack the enemy head on
2. bring some jugs, a couple tri's and a couple heavy trannies brimming with centurions, composite bowmen, and villies, and set up a base with which to attack the enemy where they are least defended while their navy is occupied.


Simple, yet effective. Ive won many a sea faring battle with that strat!

Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 03-03-03 07:41 PM ET (US)     17 / 26       
I use juggernauts in preference to catapults. Too slow.

DR LORENZO
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I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 03-03-03 09:46 PM ET (US)     18 / 26       
Persian triremes lack both artisanship and craftsmanship, so they are limited to 8 range instead of 10. Their juggernauts, however, have engineering for a full 12 range.
 
Juggernauts are very effective against hittite war galleys.
 
Why do people make hordes of catapults despite their 80 gold cost, yet cringe at the tought of spending 40 gold for a juggernaut?

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Dangrimm
Clubman
posted 03-04-03 01:32 AM ET (US)     19 / 26       
because, juggernauts are sea bound, and so, the player assumes they wont come to much use other than establishing a beach head, a verry n00b mistake.
Conquesticus
Clubman
posted 03-04-03 11:47 PM ET (US)     20 / 26       
because, juggernauts are sea bound, and so, the player assumes they wont come to much use other than establishing a beach head, a verry n00b mistake.

juggernauts may be seabound, but they can still fire in quite some way. as far as establishing a beachhead, why is that a verry n00b mistake? please inform us general


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BobbyEsq
Clubman
posted 03-09-03 11:26 PM ET (US)     21 / 26       
The map matters! If you are playing on a mostly water map, like small islands or large islands, or perhaps mediterranean, and you can pop out juggernauts very quickly, you can use them to flatten acres upon acres of forest the enemies thought they were going to turn into a navy. This strategy also works on some coastal maps.

But the real answer to the "juggernauts vs. triremes" "question" is "both". I generally have about twice as many triremes as juggernauts.

Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 03-09-03 11:51 PM ET (US)     22 / 26       
Once, on a small islands DM, my starting island was so small it could only fit a barracks and one house!

DR LORENZO
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I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
Sykesluva
Clubman
posted 03-18-03 12:01 PM ET (US)     23 / 26       
Quite simply put...
Use triremes to take out boats.
Use Juggernauts to siege enemy bases.

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Iron Hoplite
Clubman
posted 03-18-03 12:49 PM ET (US)     24 / 26       
That's nice Doc - I'd like to see that one myself.

Heck... who can beat a Mithril Colossus Hoplite like I am one now...?
Besides, Zeus agreed to help me, and Athena to love me...
Centurion
Clubman
posted 03-18-03 02:03 PM ET (US)     25 / 26       
juggernauts

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Dr Lorenzo
AOEH Seraph
posted 03-18-03 11:43 PM ET (US)     26 / 26       
And of course, a TC and a few villies.

DR LORENZO
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I of course meant bastard in a positive way! - Kor
I just sort of chop away at it when it gets long enough. The ladies love it. - Obese, on shaving
Lorenzo is kind of like that relative everyone knows about but won't talk about. - Crimson Knight
We already knew about the mass murders and gang rapes and ethnic cleansings, but now they've resorted to ENCRYPTING PEOPLES ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS! - drahnier
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