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Topic Subject:My first night on the Zone
Delirious Lab
Clubman
(id: Benoit)
posted 03-22-01 10:23 AM ET (US)         
Well I finally got a decent modem that doesn't crash every 10 minutes, so I tried playing on the Zone last night. It was quite a trying experience. I had no idea how strong I was by Zone standards, so I tried my luck at the very few "rookie" games out there.

Game #1: 3v3 reveal. After 3 minutes, host boots me out because I'm the only one without a wideband connection. I hang onto the Achievement screen to see how I was doing: not bad, I had the second largest population.

Game #2: 2v2. After 13 seconds, the host's partner crashes. Host kills the game because doesn't want to continue 1v2.

Game #3: I decide to host my own game: "1v1, 1.0 speed, 50 pop." Some guy walks in, I launch the game and he says "make it 200 pop, hillz, reveal, 2.0 speed etc." we argue a bit, I haggle him down to 100 pop. but agree to everything else - I want a game! A minute into the game, he has gathered all the artifacts. I bronze in my usual 17-18 minutes with 24 villagers or so, and start combing the map with CAs. I kill a couple villies, find the treasures walled in at a corner of the map. I proceed to destroy the walls, go back to make some farms, and - D'OHH!! I forget to claim the artifacts and lose! (Not at all used to 2.0 speed, those 2000 years sure fly!) I look at achievements - he had zero population left! He basically started with his 7 villies, tooled, made a tower and a clubber as a bluff, and crossed his fingers with the artifacts. And to think ha wanted a 200 pop! I thought it was a pretty lame way to win a game, but he left without a word. So much for my first complete game.

Game #4: 1v1, I do the same strategy and walk into blue's town with 3 CAs. Game over, he resigns. Turns out he had 32 villagers and I had just 18, and he had just bronzed and built 5 archeries. He must have been swimming in food and wood. Even if I had killed half his villies while he was getting the wheel, he would have had as good an econ as mine once his 5 Hittite CAs would have got rid of my three (Shang) CAs. Would have been a game, but obviously he thought otherwise.

Game #5: Half hour until bedtime, I notice a "cheats" game and hop in just for the heck of it. It turned out to be the most fun I had in the evening, building all those flashy white cars, going after Wonders with ICBM ballistas... I won by littering the middle of the map with cars so his ICBMs couldn't get within range of my Wonder - and I had a heck of a good time.

So, that was it... All in all, not quite what I expected. Then again, the adrenaline rush of playing vs. a single human is 1000 times higher than playing against seven computer opponents. I'll log on again this weekend and try some more advanced competition - maybe I'll get creamed, but so what. At least I'll play some real games that last a while. My Zone name is Benoit3535.

Seeya there!

[This message has been edited by Benoit (edited 03-22-2001 @ 10:56 AM).]

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SBE
Clubman
posted 03-22-01 06:35 PM ET (US)     1 / 19       
I like the way you told your zone stories, it made me laugh ...anyway i hope to see you down there this weekend...i'm not sure about advanced competition, but we'll see

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wedsaz
Clubman
posted 03-22-01 06:35 PM ET (US)     2 / 19       
Heh, that brings back memories.
 
Good news! I played AoE yesterday. It was just single-player AoE trial, but at least I started practicing my skills again. Things are looking good, maybe in a month or two...
Sumerian Leper
Clubman
posted 03-23-01 04:36 PM ET (US)     3 / 19       
Beniot:

Ahhh...yes...the rush or the adrenal glands. Good show Mr. Beniot. I would suggest sticking to your guns on settings. Type in your setts..."Settings Are Not Negotiable." I do know that there are far more 1 vs 1 50 pop games in AoE. I am assuming that you played RoR, since you mentioned hillz. Good Luck in your quest for greatness.


Knowledge is not power until it is formulated into an organized plan of action.
Delirious Lab
Clubman
(id: Benoit)
posted 03-23-01 09:41 PM ET (US)     4 / 19       
Leper:

I have never played AoE, only RoR - I can't imagine life without production queues. But I might get on it someday, if the AoE Zone is a better environment for "old geezer" games (i.e. 50 pop and 1.0 speed).

May try it someday.

Sumerian Leper
Clubman
posted 03-23-01 11:10 PM ET (US)     5 / 19       
Benoit:

You will also find as many as 300 or more players in Aoe also. There are many purist players or "geezers' as you say there...50 pop / no reveal / no full tech / and so on. I played RoR soley for over a year and recently went back to AoE. I am finding many more games I am interested in there. I hate nothing more than sitting in a room hosting and not getting a game for hours because my setts are not the popular thing at that moment in time. RoR players seem much more fickle these days.

I also enjoy training Newbies and there always seems to be new blood in Aoe...believe it or not...the game is far from dead.


Knowledge is not power until it is formulated into an organized plan of action.
ManBehindTheCurtain
Clubman
posted 03-24-01 09:05 AM ET (US)     6 / 19       
I agree with Sumerian Leper. AoE is far from dead. At any given moment there are almost always about 1.5 times as many people playing AoE on the zone as are playing RoR on the zone. There simply is more AoE than RoR.

Many new computers come with a software bundle option in which Microsoft includes AoE at a reduced price. I am not sure, but if this bundle is similar to ones offered to me when I last purchased hardware, all you get is the CD. No manual, no documentation. Many people are obtaining AoE in this manner, loading up the software, noting the on-line multiplayer option and jumping right onto the zone where they are trying to play AoE. As Leper points out, these people need training but they are on the zone every day, trying to play and trying to have fun. For them, and for most of us, trying to have fun is the whole point.

What I believe the net effect of this to be is that there is a much more varied atmosphere in AoE. In RoR most of the players have decided on what game they want to play (does Mediterranean, gigantic, pop 200, speed 1.5, reveal, sound familiar?) In AoE there are many more people who are still trying things out. I have recently played stone age start dm, iron age start rm, nomad high resources, no advancing past bronze age, 6 player ffa, scenarios and other sorts of variations which I just don't think you see very much any more in RoR. And yes, I think you see many more population 50 games in AoE.

I note yet again that as for myself, I play pretty much exclusively AoE. The expansion pack adds some things that I wish the original had. But it adds many things which I can very gladly do without, thank you. I, like many, do not believe that the expansion is an improvement. The original game is what hooked me and the original game is what still holds me here. Long live the king. Long live the simplicity and the majesty of the original. Long live Age of Empires.

This is just my opinion, I could be wrong.


Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
CenturionZ_1
Clubman
posted 03-24-01 09:28 AM ET (US)     7 / 19       
Well, I remember my first Zone match. A RM where my Phoenician centurions kicked butt. Well, I was playing against a total newbie to AoE (I already ahd it for 1 year).

RoR is not as popular as AoE becase most of the people who bought RoR then moved to AoK and so on. Many people playing AoE only have AoE, they don't want to buy an expansion or AoK. They're more devoted to AoE classic rather then moving with the games.

Anyway, I will always like RoR only. Macedonian don't appear in AoE.


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Sumerian Leper
Clubman
posted 03-24-01 10:13 AM ET (US)     8 / 19       
Benoit:

Dave and I were on last night. We both ZMd you to no avail. Just wondering why the cold shoulder?


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Delirious Lab
Clubman
(id: Benoit)
posted 03-24-01 04:14 PM ET (US)     9 / 19       
Leper: Sorry!!! Were you the ones sending me messages en franšais? I did get some messages in French popping up but when I tried responding the chat box vanished! I didn't know how to bring it back, didn't realize who was calling, I'm still pretty lost out there. If I'd known it was you calling, I'd certainly have played with you.
Sumerian Leper
Clubman
posted 03-25-01 07:25 PM ET (US)     10 / 19       
Benoit:

Hmmm, I'm fairly sure that my ZM is set up for English. I'd check your ZM settings if I were you. I'll look for you another time.


Knowledge is not power until it is formulated into an organized plan of action.
Delirious Lab
Clubman
(id: Benoit)
posted 03-25-01 11:58 PM ET (US)     11 / 19       
It wasn't the settings that were French, it was the message itself. All I got were 2 chat messages in French from someone - so it wasn't you. I'm pretty sure I never got the ZMs you sent. I did make sure I wasn't on "do not disturn' mode, but that's all. Any ideas?

Anyway, I put your name in my Friends list so I can check if you're there when I log on.

Phill Phree
Clubman
posted 03-26-01 00:36 AM ET (US)     12 / 19       
Sumie:

They say geezers in Canada?


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Delirious Lab
Clubman
(id: Benoit)
posted 03-26-01 10:38 AM ET (US)     13 / 19       
I logged on again last night. What I find most difficult is finding opponents with somewhat equal skills as mine. It seems that everyone has their definition of what a "rookie" is. I've joined rookie games where I've been thoroughly wiped out in 15 minutes, and others where I've crushed people to the point where I felt bad for them.
Delirious Lab
Clubman
(id: Benoit)
posted 03-26-01 10:50 AM ET (US)     14 / 19       
ManBehindtheCurtain:

Yes the reveal hills games are very prevalent on the RoR Zone. But I found that I was able to get a game at the settings I like (small islands!) most of the time. And some people had pretty unconventional games going on, like 3v3 coop, camel wars (only vills and camels allowed!) or foot wars (if it don't walk on 2 feet, ya can't make it).

By the way, anybody have tips on small islands games? (I like small isles because it doesn't last too long.) I always seem to run out of wood before the other guy.

peter
HG Alumnus
posted 03-26-01 11:09 AM ET (US)     15 / 19       
build lots of towers - the opponents can waste their wood on them.
Dave
Clubman
posted 03-26-01 03:21 PM ET (US)     16 / 19       
Benoit:

The zone is always like that - the definition of "rookie" is very subjective. Plus some inters like to go in rookie games for the guaranteed win (shame on them), i.e if you got wiped out in 15 minutes by a "rookie" then that was not a "rookie".

Just keep on playing, learning and having fun.

peter
HG Alumnus
posted 03-27-01 11:48 AM ET (US)     17 / 19       
Benoit:
what civ did you take (both players I mean)?
Delirious Lab
Clubman
(id: Benoit)
posted 03-27-01 04:25 PM ET (US)     18 / 19       
peter:

On hills games I usually played Shang - not that it made me bronze fast, I got wiped out in early Bronze by a Hittite (lol).

On small islands I play Minoan (cheaper boats should help with the limited wood) and I played Hittite for Medit. maps. I can't recall every game, but the better island players I've seen like to play Phoenician.

lshaul
Clubman
posted 03-28-01 07:19 AM ET (US)     19 / 19       
Hi all, it's been awhile since I've actually posted on this forum. I'd love to play multiplayer again as I have not played an AOE game online since the fall or winter of 1999. Ugh, yes it really has been that long.

I had been active on the AOKH forums after Age of Kings came out but I stopped posting regularly when I began playing Asheron's Call.

My zone name is Rieekan4. I'd really like to play with some fellow agers again.

[This message has been edited by lshaul (edited 03-28-2001 @ 07:27 AM).]

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