wedsaz
Clubman
posted 04-18-00 03:47 PM ET (US)
What's the best civ/strat to beat minoan in RM medit?
Hyper
Clubman
posted 05-16-00 11:19 PM
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2 / 31
Any civ/strat that stops mino from mining gold
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 05-17-00 01:47 AM
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3 / 31
It's surprising how much gold can be generated from a few simple trade boats.
So, minoan with a constant supply of gold is invincible?
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 05-17-00 03:15 AM
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5 / 31
Ah, that's good. Are they the only ones who have a good chance vs minoan?
Blackheart
Clubman
posted 05-17-00 06:59 AM
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6 / 31
every civ has a chance of beating mino....... if it wasn't so, they wouldn't have put all these civs in ror...... it's a matter of how you use your civ.......
HonoredMule
Clubman
posted 05-17-00 09:08 AM
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7 / 31
I personally can't use mino, I have to pick some other civ.
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 05-17-00 03:14 PM
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8 / 31
Blackheart:
Ah, so would greek be your top choice vs minoan?
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 05-18-00 03:19 AM
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10 / 31
RomanGladius:
Trade boats generate enough gold if you start early, for minoan to take control of one lousy gold mine against a lot of civs. Then they have a whole gold mine to take control of another. Heck, I supplied enough gold for a yamato cav rush vs a shang and an assy from trade boats alone. We realized we were cursed by the map god, who granted us no gold mines, so we started using trade boats in tool. By bronze we had enough gold for cavs, a few STs, writing, pit upgrades, ... So what if you start in stone?
1. Minoan vs Shang - Shang had better win before 10 mins or so, else minoan will out-econ them. If minoan walls in, that may be difficult.
2. Minoan vs Yamato - Yamato saves 25f per scout. Big freaking deal, minoan saves 15w per fishing boat so they can probably afford more scouts than yam can after like 9 mins. Minoan can make 7 warboats to yam's 5, so the sea is probably theirs. Plus minoan knows exactly what to expect from yam, so they can be ready.
3. Minoan vs Hittite - I lost enough times with minoan vs hittite to know I shouldn't argue. Not letting hittite build when you're minoan is harder than it sounds.
Oh, and as I mentioned in the starting post, I'm assuming RM medit. 2v2 RM medit defaults noreveal conquest to be exact.
RomanGladius
AOKH DM Champion
posted 05-18-00 05:25 PM
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12 / 31
If you start trading early, I'll just spend that wood on warboats. Then we'll see how long your trading operation lasts
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 05-18-00 05:42 PM
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13 / 31
RomanGladius:
Make up your mind, do you go all out for the gold mines or fight minoan on the sea? I'm afraid you can't win both those battles, as minoan's sea bonus is quite powerful.
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 05-18-00 06:54 PM
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15 / 31
Flawless_Empire:
All that with 4 camels? Sounds to me like he wasn't very good, at least not with minoan.
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 05-19-00 03:38 PM
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18 / 31
Not many FBs, I assume he let you shoot most of them down?
With that kind of an economy, you'd think he'd make some (minoan) compies to kill your camels, or at least wall in.
wedsaz
Clubman
posted 05-19-00 08:39 PM
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20 / 31
Flawless Empire:
Ah, it was a sneak attack then! Nice going, but if he had made a few compies or walled in, it sounds like you're the one who would have looked like a pincushion.
How fast did you bronze, anyway?
SuN_Cam_Popov
Clubman
posted 05-23-00 12:43 PM
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21 / 31
BTW, if you wanna have a very good chance of succeeding when ya play as Minos, u gotta have 40 villies at minute 10:00 or so and 50 under 15 mins brz.
Dave
Clubman
posted 05-23-00 01:42 PM
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22 / 31
SUN_Cam_Popov: how many of those 40 vils are real? Maybe 24 or 25? You build reals until about the 8 minute mark?
SuN_Cam_Popov
Clubman
posted 05-23-00 03:00 PM
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23 / 31
Dunno how much reals: with Minos, I do real villies 'till I'm ready to click tool which is usually 9:00-10:00 (slowest games) so it means 'bout 28 real ones (dunno exactly:I've never counted my number of villies during a game except for fast tool rush or a brz fast). 28-3 initial ones=25-4(the 4 you do with the 200 food)=21. 21 villies between minute 1:20 and 9:00. 1 villie takes 20 secs to be done=1 min for 3 villies so 9:00 with 28 reals is easy.
SuN_Cam_Popov
Clubman
posted 05-23-00 03:05 PM
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24 / 31
BTW, this is when playing on Conti Vs good players or on Medit Vs medium players: you'll get your ass kicked each and every games if you perform the 50 villies boom on Medit:no WAY in hell you're gonna be able to pull a win from that on Medit vs Experts