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storm
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posted 12-01-98 11:03 AM ET (US)         
For an Egyptian, whats the best way to counter massed HHA. Ive tried with my Scythes but they ususally get torn up before they get close enough to the HHA..HELPPPP


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j_bourne
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posted 12-01-98 11:27 AM ET (US)     1 / 7       
HAs are one of the banes of Egypt - unless they stand and fight. If they do stand and fight or if you notice they're his primary offensive weapon, use Ele archers backed by scythes. The enormous hitpoints on Ele archers means they can take a lot of beating, even from a group of HHAs while your scythes close in for the kill. I'm not sure I'd use priests behind the ele archers because he could sprint in and kill them rapidly

Obviously, this is food-intensive but given your lack of other options ...

I would also recommend walling (and if necessary towering) so that his HAs don't raid your town regularly killing your villies. If you're running low on resources, try going the Ballista tower route - yamato are famously bad against towers, particularly if you have your super-long range priests behind the towers. Get Jihad and offensive tower him . I would be surprised if it reached this stage, though.

HTH,
J.

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Stryfe
Clubman
posted 12-01-98 04:39 PM ET (US)     2 / 7       
massed egyptian CAs with range upgrades and nobility is what I would probably go for...throw up a few towers and walls for sure, before he comes and raids your village with speedy HAs


Your_Old_Friend
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posted 12-04-98 06:26 AM ET (US)     3 / 7       
Right On!...

Ballista Towers and Elephants will take care of Yamato for good - some Priests against his Centurions or Cataphracts (if he goes that way) and certainly HHAs won't be very effective.

As long as your wall-in is well done, what can HHA do...


Laelius
Clubman
posted 12-04-98 08:52 AM ET (US)     4 / 7       
a group of Juggernaughts work pretty good to if the HHA are near water. I was reintroduced to these in a game yesterday on a cont map, and it is surprising how much area was available to hit with the jugs. Almost everywhere , and they take out heliopolises very nicely too.

Laelius


NoSoup4U
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posted 12-04-98 10:52 AM ET (US)     5 / 7       
Any civ with lousy siege will have some difficulty just mowing down HHA. As recommended before, wall in first, If your economy is humming and safe the EA route as suggested is ok or get ballista towers and creep towards the enemy, gobbling up territory. This tactic works pretty well with egypt and babs especially when towering is supported by priests and a decent mixed army. Without good seige or fast iron age units, gobble up territory where you can and make HHA fight you without the ability to run or utilize hills etc.

Wait a second, this strategy works well with any civ


postapokalyptic
Clubman
posted 12-04-98 11:41 AM ET (US)     6 / 7       
Egypt is one of the best defensive civs in the game IMO. Even civs with great Seige have problems taking down an expert Egyptian player. Your power is in your ability to hold land that you take control of with Ballista Towers, Fortification, and SuperPriests. However, Egypt is definately not the most offensive civ. The other advantage you have over a Yamato player is you are not a gold relient civ. If the Yammy doesnt overwhelm you quickly (which should be his goal) then just use an endless barrage of fully upgraded Scyths and CA until he is lowered to Scouts and Bowmen.


Mr_Potejon
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posted 12-04-98 01:40 PM ET (US)     7 / 7       
stupid question maybe but any civs to stop yam in bronze or strats, cus if I use hoppers and wall I will loose a big part of the map, if not he can just run by my hoppers.
I can toolrush but my experience is limited with that, like 1 sucess


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