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Topic Subject:AOK not even in beta test & allready a historical flaw
JUICEofVENUS
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posted 07-23-99 07:03 PM ET (US)         
Besides the persian elephant "we wanted to make the game more attractive", why don't u say : "we wanted to get more money for mr.Gates he's so poor"

Now did u noticed in the prewievs that the teuton knight is on foot !!! a pedestrian!!! i mean knights were nobleman it was under their dignity to walk on foot, even the most poor knight had a horse & the teutons were NOTORIOUS for horse riding & TANK HEAVY armour, it would been so easy to walk in such a feather light armour right..........

Probably cuz the ensemble guys were too lazy they just added the Teuton over the centurion skeleton (i won't be surprized if AOK is ROR with new clothes), also they didn't bother to program bridges, buildable/destroiable bridges (games like TZAR seem to have), doesn't it sucks when money take over?

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hydarnes
Clubman
posted 07-23-99 08:20 PM ET (US)     1 / 19       
You act as if RoR is a bad game!!!! I wouldn't mind if AoK is worse than RoR, and I would still get it, cuz RoR is soooo good already

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Lysimachus
Clubman
posted 07-23-99 08:32 PM ET (US)     2 / 19       
Well I think you better study your history a little better sir! I collect military books from the Osprey Military series, and got one from the library called "Armies of the Crusades". It had colorful dressed up Teutonic knights ON FOOT ready for battle!!!! Tuetonic Knights fought on foot. If you want to find out full detail on them, order the books from Osprey Military. You will get every bit of info you desire on military units, elite units, armies, men a at armes, battles, and much more!!!

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Thunder
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posted 07-23-99 08:33 PM ET (US)     3 / 19       
I'm not sure if you know what you're talking about. Have you played the game?

If everything in this game was historicly accurate, it really wouldn't be much fun to play. The Chinese would win every game, and most of the civs would be useless in later ages. For goodness sake, do you want the game to be FUN? or do you want realism? (I'll take a fun game over a realistic one anyday!

Fact: Chain mail (which was often worn by Teutonic Knights) was not very heavy, and Knights did dismount to fight on foot regularly.

Fact: I have seen bridges in AoK. Not in random maps, but in scenarios

Fact: The guys at ES aren't lazy...what are you on? They made AoE, RoR, and have nearly completed another great game, with new graphics, units, economic system, and more...

If you want to look for historical flaws, go right ahead. But, let me tell you that this game is not RoR in new clothes. It is better in a great many ways, and plays completely differently.

hydarnes
Clubman
posted 07-23-99 08:44 PM ET (US)     4 / 19       
What I'm saying thunder, is: Take for instance RoR, it's an Excellent game, and if AoK was worse I wouldn't mind since RoR is SO very GOOD! I'm not saying that AoK will be worse I'm just say that "If" it was worse I would still like it.

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JUICEofVENUS
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posted 07-23-99 09:11 PM ET (US)     5 / 19       
By no means i say that AOE/ROR/AOK are bad games, they are truely brilliant games, but what i want to say is that if they had the proper time (no deadlines & schedules & stuff) tey will be much better games, with many more options & detail. For example did yamato or sumerian have centurions!!! did greek & roman centurions look the same???
of course these are minor details, but the gave would've been much better if they would be taken care of.
Cherub Desert R
Clubman
posted 07-23-99 09:33 PM ET (US)     6 / 19       
Well, in AoK (Or at least the version I saw a screen shot of, not an official one though) there WERE 4000 hp bridges in the game. And Bill Gates doesn't get all the money, or Microsoft in general, they get very little. Poor, moneyless Ensemble Studios, makers of the game, gets the biggest chunk of it. ES is out to make money, so they are gonna make a game that sells, Historically Accurate or not.
Thunder
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posted 07-23-99 09:34 PM ET (US)     7 / 19       
If they made different art for every civs units, you would need a high end system just to run the game. Anyone with a P-166 would be outta luck.

Did the Yamato or Sumerians have Centurians? That shouldn't be the question. Would the game be balanced better or more fun if the Yamato or Sumerians didn't have centurians? (which I'm assuming you believe is historicly accurate) I don't think so.

The people at Ensemble Studios have done a lot of research into the civs and units and buildings in the game. They certainly are aware of what is historicly correct. IF something in the game is historicly inaccurate, you can be sure that they have done this on purpose. Why? To make the game balanced, and fun. After all, it is supposed to be a game.

Duke Raven
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posted 07-23-99 11:39 PM ET (US)     8 / 19       
2 words, Stop Bitching, If you dont like the game dont buy it. It doesn't matter to me if its real or not i mean hey look at warcraft and TA:Kingdoms. I could really care less. Its not how the game looks it is how much i like to play it.

--DukeRaven--
Quote the Raven "nevermore"

SlakTheEldar
Clubman
posted 07-24-99 02:29 PM ET (US)     9 / 19       
Dude, if they didn't have any deadlines, AoE/RoR/AoK would all be vapor-ware.

I echo Duke's sentiments: "Shut up and play".

Cheers,
Slak

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APC_YODA
Inactive
posted 07-26-99 12:48 PM ET (US)     10 / 19       
I think the last two comments were kind of harsh. I do not think that the post author tried to attack anyone. How effective is a forum when an individual feels anxious to post his or her comments because of the dulcet talk of the unripe forum participants.

borgboy12
Clubman
posted 07-26-99 07:22 PM ET (US)     11 / 19       
Agree with Yoda I do, you not agree then agree not you shall. Agree yes you, you be blessed you shall...hmmmm

hehe

Axman
Inactive
posted 07-26-99 07:36 PM ET (US)     12 / 19       
As much as I love AoE dont have RoR I would have to agree with JUICE look at the game now AoE all the Units are the same. They should have at least made some historicaly accurate units like the real Roman Heavy infentry, Greek Phalanx are good they kind of looked like that esspecialy shield, armor, and spear the helmet looked like broad swords men. So a little Historical accuracy would be good. Oh plus chines wouldnt win all the games if it was made historicaly accurate the chines were a week civ everyone knows that Mongol Tribes constantly raided and defeated week Chines armys plus Jap Samories would have wasted Chines Troops. The chines were kind of like the Persians depending on large # of Men to win and that rarely ever happend. So a little Historical accuracy would make the game a little more fun but dont get me wrong I love AoE and from what I saw on AoK its goin to be Phat as hell.
Cordyceps
Naphal
(id: ArchDruid)
posted 07-26-99 10:32 PM ET (US)     13 / 19       
Uhh... Another quick historical note, for the guy who said chainmail was LIGHT.... I have WORN chainail (at a medieval fair in a town near here), and, granted it was Norman style, it was VERY heavy. Chainmail is by no means light.

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Thunder
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posted 07-27-99 00:26 AM ET (US)     14 / 19       
I didn't mean to imply that it was light. Sure, it's no silk shirt, but you have no trouble walking around in it. I have also tried on chainmail at my archery club, and you're right, it isn't light. However, I had no trouble wearing it around, and using my bow.
borgboy12
Clubman
posted 07-27-99 04:01 AM ET (US)     15 / 19       
Will you people get it through your thick skulls? ES can't do that!!! To much artwork! In AOK you have building set boats, maybe in AOD you will get the units. But if so it will take a heck of a long time to make
Rocker49
Inactive
posted 07-27-99 03:55 PM ET (US)     16 / 19       
If u whinie babies want historical accuracy this game would have only one or two civs because most of the great empires took place at different times
Pokeboy151
Inactive
posted 07-27-99 04:08 PM ET (US)     17 / 19       
PLEAESE stop arguing. I agree, that if AOK was TOTALLY accurate, NOONE would want to play it. I am Going to play it anyway, but im loyal :-)

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Wicked_Spirit
Clubman
posted 07-27-99 04:27 PM ET (US)     18 / 19       
Its a GAME, not a history lesson.
James_Bond
Clubman
posted 07-28-99 00:52 AM ET (US)     19 / 19       
While I have seen the Tuetonic Knight on foot in the previews, I also remember(faintly) the Tuetonic knight on a horse in the earliest version of Age of Kings Heaven.

And if you think ES is lazy...then how did they make these great games with deadlines! If you think they are so lazy, then you make a game like AoE in the same time period as they did. I'll be waiting.

Now that I have vented, I will back to the sleek, sly, spy James Bond.

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