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Topic Subject: I thought APCers were supposed to be nice guys.
posted 05-21-99 07:30 AM ET (US)   
I am new to this forum, the Zone, amd AoE. I have been reading about the APC clan concept and thought I would share a Zone experience I had a few days ago.

I entered a room and looked to read the settings. I found "Don't ask the setting or you will be booted." Hmmm.. So I left.

Then a player who was in the room messaged me asking why I left. I said I didn't want to get booted by asking settings. He said the game was DM. I responded, " Thanks anyway, I don't prefer DM." (I am new and am trying to get better at the basic default settings and was on line with the time to play just one game that evening.)

At this point the player began sending me a string of rude messages (including foul language)..I responded that I though he was being rude. He continued until I logged off and came back under a different name.

Then a few days later, I see him posting at this forum as an APC clan member. Granted, he wasn't playing as an APC-that evening but he had the same name.

Am I over-reacting? I am not going to use his name but I assume he will read this post. I hope he will decide to live by the APC credo.

Thanks to all you great players who share your wisdom here at this forum. It really adds to the enjoyment of a great game.

[This message has been edited by Timur Leng (edited 05-21-99).]

posted 05-21-99 09:23 AM ET (US)     1 / 20  
Very disturbing news, Timur Leng

Please realize that this is not the norm and the 'APCer' might have been having a bad day. (not a good exuse, but....)

look me up in the Zone (though I'm going to be busy the next couple of days, dont know why...) if you ever want someone to play with/against. I answer every ZM I get and will play a match as long as I can. =D


posted 05-21-99 09:29 AM ET (US)     2 / 20  
Well, it wasn't me, but I apologize for your bad experience with an APCer. The majority of the people that player under APC names do not behave that way. I know how frustrating it can be to get harrassed by lamers on the zone. It really takes the fun out of it. I hope you will give an APC labeled game a try and see if your experience is better.
posted 05-21-99 09:40 AM ET (US)     3 / 20  
APC'ers are bad and evil!!

Nahh, I'm kidding I'd say, the bigger a clan is, the least awareness you have on what's happening. Unfortunately, when 1 member misbehave, it affects the reputation of the whole clan very quickly. Oh well, that's life

APC'ers are nice people, there is only 1 I know who's evil, it's Vixen (inside joke)


posted 05-21-99 09:57 AM ET (US)     4 / 20  
Now Phil,

I can not let an attack on a fellow Apc'er (Vixen) go unanswered (hehe). It means we have to invade Canada now just to get at you (jk). =D

Thanks for the kind words about the APC 'members'. You are correct about a large group being more difficult to police. For the record, it wasn't me......

MiC's don't know how to play hockey!! (Go Nordiques...uhh Avalanche!!!!)

posted 05-21-99 10:31 AM ET (US)     5 / 20  
Sorry about your bad experience. Give us his name and we will execute him immediately!
Please remember that the APC is a wide open peudo-clan; anyone who wants can join and we have no way of policing the fringe element. The core of this group are true gentlemen and ladies. Please try us again.
posted 05-21-99 11:53 AM ET (US)     6 / 20  
Hm, sorry about that. It wasn't me - ( I hate DM ) , but I'm wondering who it could be... Due to the rather informal nature of the clan, it's hard to keep screwballs from coming and gumming up the works. Ah, well, most of us are nice, and the "core group" is awesome.

Tell us this cretins name and we will all ostracize him immediately!!

posted 05-21-99 12:07 PM ET (US)     7 / 20  

I commend you for not naming names. The APC, as others have pointed out (and you no doubt know from reading this forum) is NOT a "real" clan - therefore, we have no criteria other than having fun and making the game fun for others. Apparently, this individual forgot at least part of that credo.

I have met no one among the APC who has acted in the manner you have described, though we certainly have some, shall we say, "irrationally exhuberant" members (all apologies to Alan Greenspan for lifting his "A" material w/o permission). Please don't hold the action of one against the rest of us - better yet, sign up as an APC'er, and meet him again on the field of battle - then hit him in the Woodies, where it counts.

posted 05-21-99 12:09 PM ET (US)     8 / 20  
I've been through this discution zillions of times but hey, let's do it again! You cannot invade Canada!! We have 2 natural elements protecting us from you, the mosquitos during summer and the snowfalls in winter... you and your empty threats!

Besides, Waine Gretsky, shortly after he retired, called me to ask if he could join MiC. Of course, I told him there was no problems at all. Who do you think our new member, MiC_TaZo is?!


[This message has been edited by MiC_Biodigestor (edited 05-21-99).]

posted 05-21-99 12:18 PM ET (US)     9 / 20  

Your itty-bitty Canadian mosquitoes couldn't suck blood from an open wound. And don't think that your 11 months of winter will protect you either. Wisconsin winters 'aint no picnic' my friend! (we only have 9 months of winter and three of construction) We could settle this with a good snowball fight!!!!

Why is the NHL hall of Fame in Minnesota?

-I'll trade you a nickel for a Looney

[This message has been edited by Scarab (edited 05-21-99).]

posted 05-21-99 12:21 PM ET (US)     10 / 20  
Timur Leng:

IŽm sorry you stumbled upon one of our members that didnŽt know how to behave at that time.

Normally, APC games are always fun games. I hope youŽll find that out soon enough for yourself when playing w/ us. IŽll kick up the APC list for you in case itŽs not visible any more.

Hehe, Phil:

"APC'ers are nice people, there is only 1 I know who's evil, it's Vixen (inside joke)".

Oh well, replace "APC" by "MiC" and "Vixen" by "Phil" in the above sentence, then youŽre there...


posted 05-21-99 12:23 PM ET (US)     11 / 20  
I hate dm to but is it sure that he was APC? I mean some players choose totally different nicks from their normal zone names and I am sure there are many players who have similar names without the APC_ in front, but if it was an APC then I apolgize. That kind of behaviour is unacceptable.

- Pote

"Your shadow is the proof of your excistence. The shadow is the sun's footprints on earth."

posted 05-21-99 01:21 PM ET (US)     12 / 20  
Sorry for your bad experience Timur. That type of behavior can really sour a person's attitude about online gaming. Rest assured that most of us are not like that.

Another option you could have tried is to set you zf status to "Do not disturb." Then that person wouldn't be able to zm you. (Is there an "ignore" option for zf?)

Look me up for a game if you want to watch me, have me watch you, or play a game together. I'm on the lower end of the "ability spectrum" but I'm willing to share what I know. (That should take all of 3 minutes )

No other success can compensate for failure in the home.

posted 05-21-99 01:42 PM ET (US)     13 / 20  
Yes, Hemlock, you select Privacy... under the Options menu. Then, select Custom and People who can not see me. Then you just type in their handle and click Add person.

For the record, 'twasn't me either I suggest the guilty party fess up and apologize. If that doesn't happen within a week, I recommend Timur post their name or we will all go nuts.

Kurtiebird ~ ICQ 1616884
aka APC_Kurtiebird, VVV_Kurtiebird

Official Smiley Curator. Get your smileys here!

[This message has been edited by kurtiebird (edited 05-21-99).]

posted 05-21-99 01:54 PM ET (US)     14 / 20  
well, i guess i will have to admit it. it was my bad day.. i have finals coming up and failing classes, blah blah blah.. so, i apologize for not being there to see who this apc-er is.
but if it makes you feel better, just tell everyone that it's me. even though i am not the one who did it, as part of apc, i am somewhat responsible for it. if you would give us a chance, i will be glad to show you what true apc-ers are like.


posted 05-21-99 03:43 PM ET (US)     15 / 20  
minesota is supposed to be in cannada, but due to a mistype, it is in the us
posted 05-21-99 03:58 PM ET (US)     16 / 20  
Man! I cant beleive someone would do that, in my games i ask everyone what they want the settings to be, although sometimes they get annoyed :P anyway, if that ever happens again, just write down the players zone name and then do what Kurtie has said in a post a bit further down than mine. Dont forget to report anything like that to the forums. We'll try to contact them about their behavior if we know it was them i guess...

See ya on the flipside...
"Sleep? I can sleep when i'm dead."

[This message has been edited by Odyssey2 (edited 05-21-99).]

posted 05-21-99 05:04 PM ET (US)     17 / 20  
Mixmaster is the only one i know who playes DM

J/K.. lol sorry hehe...

Does Canada have similiar climate as Russia? Because Russia is hard to invade ... its easy to nuke but hard to conquer... well, its easy to nuke any country at this point.

FanatiC KaBaN

posted 05-21-99 05:15 PM ET (US)     18 / 20  
Why are you talking about Russia?

Russia is hard to nuke. Well, it is easy because the target is so large but for the same reason it is hard to really do significant damage And, the most beaufitul part, Russia would be easy to invade. Here is an old joke explaining why:

A Russian Duma is having a meeting on how to handle the serious economical situation. The number one suggestion was to declare the war on Switzerland and immediately surrender-let the Swiss feed our country

Sphinx (as Russian as you can get)

And, yes, some Canadian areas are as cold or even worse than some areas in Russia. But Russian Siberia can only be compared to Alaska (which was also Russian). At least there is plenty of snow in Russia and there is no Christmas without snow like in most of USA.

[This message has been edited by sphinx (edited 05-21-99).]

posted 05-21-99 05:35 PM ET (US)     19 / 20  
I know a few APC'ers and have played with/against some of them, all the one's I've met are real nice. Therefore most (like about 99%) of the APC clan is made up of nice good sportsmanship type people, you met the odd-ball or black sheep of the clan, someone who slipped through the cracks. The APC clan is real fun to play with (much nicer people than alot of the people in rated I have had the unfortunate experience of meeting).

Yes I believe our climates are very simular, since I live in Ottawa I should know, Ottawa is one of the coldest major cities in the world.


posted 05-21-99 10:48 PM ET (US)     20 / 20  
I am sorry to hear that!

I do not think it was an APC member because most of APCers that I met (and myself in my opinion) are really nice people. Well, except Angel Zen! lol

I think that was just a coincedence for them to have the APC label in front of their name.

Please do a favor for us Timur, please check the post on this forum that was written by Scarab and has the complete listing of APC members--do you recognize one of them that was bothering you?


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