Wolf must have had a kick butt location b/c he had high vill count til i passed everyone at 11 minute mark with 20 and 14 boats. I tooled and got rushed by jihad with upgraded clubbers and scouts. Now I had boned peon scouts from wolf and jihad so i figured it was coming. But there was nothing I could do as I had previously built my rax and behind jihads base and only had 120 wood when he came in and I really wanted do bronze and get camels. I put up a tower to slow him and boned some elements of his army that got separated from the rest. But in any case he got all but 6-8 of my villies. Knowing I was palmy I had created the mass fleet to keep the food coming in and it worked. During the rush i begged jaheed for wood and he gave me 168. This allowed my peon behind jihads base to build a stable and range and i bronzed. My food had also allowed me to keep making peons during the rush and their armor bonus had helped me finish the rush. I had finished boning the rush, and I had enough peons to put 2 on wood and rest on gold.
My rax behind jihad kicked out 6 upgraded axmen who wandered into jihads base unabated. Because of his rush and him going bronze he could not stop these axmen. He tried towering his wood spot but I took it out without a loss with 3 of the axers while the rest cut him up. I slaughtered numerous villies of his and Wolf's and completely put his production to a stop other than his fishing fleet. By the time i bronzed i had enough resources for 6 camels and these really stopped jihad in his tracks. He had multiple gathering spots but I knew of all of them and he couldn't muster enough force to take them back, without gold he had no real army. He had bronzed and made 3 cavs which he sent into my base but with fast palmy camels i quickly dispatched 2 and the cavs were toast.
Now this was just my side of the battle and Jaheed rushed Wolf, which didnt slow him at all, and wolf almost crunched jaheed with compies when he bronzed. I dont know how jaheed took out the compies but I know he took wolf's fishing out of the game. Wolf had to fight me as well now since jihad was paralyzed and we sparred with camels but he also had compies so i had to pull some moves out of my butt to win those battles.
Wolfie went Iron which IMHO wasted the resources to make enough compies to hold off Jaheed and still have enough leftover to send to jihad to make hops to help with my camels. Jaheed penetrated his base at same time I dispatched with Wolf's greatest force so Wolf resigned.
The purpose of this post is to ask: what can greeks do against palmy camels and compies or CAs in unison? Jihad admits to wasting the food and gold on 3 cavs but he only could have made about 3-4 hops from that stuff. Now I didn't have compies so that would have worked for a little while, but I did make CAs later and the hops couldnt have caught them and camels would have run from them to kill peons. So what can greek do? He couldn't get to my fishing fleet without going through my base because of the shape of the map. Walling may have been possible, but I was