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Topic Subject:I haven't found evidence of the existance of horse archers among the Hittites.e
hydarnes
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 05:25 PM ET (US)         
I have done some research and haven't been able to find any evidence of the existance of horse archers among the Hittites. Can any of you find some evidence that the use of HA's may of existed with the Hittites? The first time horse archers were put in the battle field was during the Assyrian dominance.

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Long Live Egypt, Death To The Hittites!

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Field_General
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 05:34 PM ET (US)     1 / 13       
Yeah, well, I found no proof that the Egyptians used Scythed Chariots--persia did. And I don't think they used hoplites either...
joecho
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 06:00 PM ET (US)     2 / 13       
And somehow, I don't think the ancient Choson strategies included mass floods of suicidal infantry dressed like Romans. Not to mention the squads of underpaid Moses wannabees, oh and yeah, those topless/barefooted dudes that build towers like mad. If ES wanted Choson to be more historically accurate, Choson would have be archery/equine based, with heavy fire galleys. Sort of like a Yam/Hittite hybrid.

I don't mind the historical inaccuracies, as long as the civ is fun to play. And they are.

-joecho

Lysimachus
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 06:13 PM ET (US)     3 / 13       
Remember Joecho, Choson's army was based around infantry. If you don't believe it, then read your AoE manual on the Choson. . And they are not purely dressed like Roman either. That same Legion look was in AoE even before RoR with the Romans came out.

I can picture the Choson Legions oriental, and I can also picture them Greek, and also Roman. The Legions uniform in RoR is a mixture look that could go for either Greek or Roman. With the Choson, you have to kind of manipulate the look in your mind, to make him look oriental, but i've done it, so you can too!

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I Lysimachus, as one of the four generals of Alexander the Great, I serve him to the best of my military knowledge.

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VagrantKnight
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 06:20 PM ET (US)     4 / 13       
I see the family resemblance. You two are a pair of wild and crazy guys.

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VagrantKnight

hydarnes
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 06:28 PM ET (US)     5 / 13       
But Egyptians had chariots almost identical with the scythe chariot minus the scythe blades, and they had foot troops simular to hoplites, just not called "hoplites". The hittites had nothing even simular to horse archers all together.


vagrentknight, I'm almost as crazy and wild as you

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Long Live Egypt, Death To The Hittites!

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Lysimachus
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 06:37 PM ET (US)     6 / 13       
ummmm....VagrantKnight! why don't you have some sense of imagination, and I ask you kindly to refrain from the response you gave.
Also have a sense of respect for others.

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VagrantKnight
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 07:24 PM ET (US)     7 / 13       
Lighten up guys. This is a GAME forum. No one expected ES to make AOE/ROR adhere strictly to historical reality. For example, like a number of other civs, Egypt has both monotheism and polytheism simultaneously. Don't you find that a little strange from a strictly historical perspective?

Do you seriously believe that you will find ancient Egyptians (or a number of other ancient civs) engaged in a Jihad (Islamic holy war) LOL.

How about the Romans, the world's greatest builders of aquaducts, not having irrigation?

Check the AOE manual. It says that Hittites were polytheistic but in the game they don't have polytheism.

Check the AOE manual for the timelines on the various civs. Sumer did not survive past the early bronze age yet in the game they are given lots of iron age techs and units.

AOE/ROR is a GAME, not an historical simulation.

Soooo....lighten up.

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VagrantKnight

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hydarnes
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 08:17 PM ET (US)     8 / 13       
You obviously don't know egyptian history very well to wonder why egypt has both monotheism and polytheism. Egypt had a pantheon of over 2000 gods and godesses, but when Akehnaton became ruler of egypt he banished polytheism and introdused monotheism. Soon after he died however, the egyptians once more made egypt polytheistic. So what I'm trying to say is this: egypts history had the worship of both monotheism and polytheism.

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Long Live Egypt, Death To The Hittites!

VagrantKnight
Clubman
posted 05-06-99 10:46 PM ET (US)     9 / 13       
I am aware of that Hydarnes, but they didn't have both at the same time. Read my post.

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VagrantKnight

hydarnes
Clubman
posted 05-07-99 00:46 AM ET (US)     10 / 13       
Um.... yes they did. while King Akehnaton was ruling, the priests of Amon-Ra and all the other gods were still with polytheism at the same time Akehnaton was with monotheism.

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Long Live Egypt, Death To The Hittites!

Thorfinn
Clubman
posted 05-07-99 01:06 PM ET (US)     11 / 13       
Hittites have horse archers. Once you get to Iron, click on the archery range, and there they are! Q.E.D.

Keep your stick on the ice.

VagrantKnight
Clubman
posted 05-07-99 01:54 PM ET (US)     12 / 13       
As ever, Thorfinn, a strong grasp on reality.

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VagrantKnight

Field_General
Clubman
posted 05-07-99 03:51 PM ET (US)     13 / 13       
Hydarnes you say "Egyptians had something just like scythe chariots but wihout the scythes...but the Hittites had nothing like the horse archers." or something like that.

My response is....yes they did! They had guys just like horse archers only without the horses.

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